Environment Secretary Liz Truss visits Somerset

Photo: Alain Lockyer.

Photo: Alain Lockyer.

First published in News

THE new Environment Secretary Liz Truss says she wants to secure Government funding for the multi-million pound Bridgwater Barrage.

The barrage across the River Parrett downstream of Bridgwater is a main feature of the 20-year flood action plan, ordered by Ms Truss' predecessor Owen Paterson, and would hold back the highest tides, preventing flooding.

Bridgwater MP Ian Liddell-Grainger met with Truss alongside leaders of the Somerset Levels and Moors Flood Action Plan (FAP) during her visit to Somerset today (July 28).

Mr Liddell-Grainger said: “Since speaking with the flood leaders she wants to get the proposal for the Barrage ready for the Autumn Statement to ensure Government money is put aside for that project.

“I'd say around two thirds of the meeting saw the discussion of the barrage or sluice. She listened and understood and she hopes to return to the county around September.”

He added FAP leaders are aiming to get proposals for the Barrage to Ms Truss within the next three weeks.

Other schemes discussed included Beer Wall, Thorney Ring Bank, Muchelney, plans for increasing the capacity of the River Sowy and the development of the Somerset Rivers Board.

Councillor John Osman, Chairman of the FAP Leaders Implementation Group and Leader of Somerset County Council, said: “The new Environment Secretary took a keen interest in the updates on work being undertaken by Flood Action Plan partners and is committed to working with us in taking them forward.”

Ms Truss visited Burrowbridge this morning to see the progress of dredging. She told the press: “In the past, mistakes were made. I want to make sure we get on with this plan.”

She added: “I am treating this as a high priority.

“I will look at the whole case on its merits, but we know dredging is important.

“I want to look at proposals for a barrage/sluice but I need to look at the full evidence before putting my findings forward for the Autumn Statement.”

Ms Truss was asked about the crippling impact the floods had on tourism in the county.

She said: “I want people to have the confidence that we can deal with floods. I know tourism is a vital industry in Somerset and I wanted to come here as soon as possible because I know how devastating the floods were.

“I want to make sure we are taking every available action and I am meeting with the Environment Agency, Drainage Board, councils and local farmers.”

When the Mercury asked Ms Truss how many farmers she was meeting with, she was unable to say, but added: “This will not be my only visit to Somerset and I would be open to speaking to more local people.

“I'm clear it is people who are farming and working the land here who know it best and they are the people we need to listen to.”

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10:05pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Itsmeagen says...

'Mr Liddell-Grainger said: “Since speaking with the flood leaders she wants to get the proposal for the Barrage ready for the Autumn Statement to ensure Government money is put aside for that project.'

I admire his optimism but that certainly was not a clear message in her interview(s) that a barrage was on the cards. A review of designs for a sluice or tidal barrier is in the Action Plan to prevent flooding in future but there is not any Government funding committed to this project. She wants to look at the whole case and there is of course the stumbling block of £8 return for every £1 spent on prevention. Not easy to achieve in a rural area.
'Mr Liddell-Grainger said: “Since speaking with the flood leaders she wants to get the proposal for the Barrage ready for the Autumn Statement to ensure Government money is put aside for that project.' I admire his optimism but that certainly was not a clear message in her interview(s) that a barrage was on the cards. A review of designs for a sluice or tidal barrier is in the Action Plan to prevent flooding in future but there is not any Government funding committed to this project. She wants to look at the whole case and there is of course the stumbling block of £8 return for every £1 spent on prevention. Not easy to achieve in a rural area. Itsmeagen
  • Score: 3

1:44am Tue 29 Jul 14

lordgodalmighty says...

looks like liz is in bridgwater highstreet saying 'who the hell are these people ? i can't understand a word they say !'
looks like liz is in bridgwater highstreet saying 'who the hell are these people ? i can't understand a word they say !' lordgodalmighty
  • Score: 3

10:46am Tue 29 Jul 14

Boring says...

Correct me if I'm wrong,but didn't this government tell us that they would spend whatever was needed to sort everything out?
This was only 6 months ago.
Correct me if I'm wrong,but didn't this government tell us that they would spend whatever was needed to sort everything out? This was only 6 months ago. Boring
  • Score: 7

11:07am Tue 29 Jul 14

Itsmeagen says...

They did but that had a double meaning. What they 'meant' they told us eventually that this bottomless crock of gold was to sort the immediate problem and do a bit of dredging. As for the rest of it be interesting to see how deep they will put their hand in their pocket.
They did but that had a double meaning. What they 'meant' they told us eventually that this bottomless crock of gold was to sort the immediate problem and do a bit of dredging. As for the rest of it be interesting to see how deep they will put their hand in their pocket. Itsmeagen
  • Score: 3

1:33pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Blue Owl says...

The start of the work, in preventing future flooding has been occurring, out on the banks of the River Parrett, the First 8 Kilometers of Dredging is being done, my concerns are with the Environment Agency, who are still the Lead Organisation on the Ground. They have Identified a further 10 sections of the River, which need attention, but, in their own statement at last weeks Joint Community scrutiny Meeting, that this will NOT be dredged this winter 2014, WHY !! Is the Question, I would like answered.
My own feeling is that, they have dredged, all they intend for now, under this first section of bank, then , if god forgive !! Them Not ?? We flood again, they the EA will say " We Dredged as you Asked " and it did not work !!!!
Well we know that it needs a combination of the entire length of the River being dredged along with the pumping stations being upgraded and more permanent ones built to replace the outdated, but still used moorland ones.
The Environment Agency, seem to want to operate on their own, whilst opting for the IDB (Internal Drainage Boards) to work along side, rather than with. The EA talk of cuts to their Budgets, but give no figures as to their actual Budgets, when they spent £33 Million on a Wetland Bird Sanctuary, instead of Dredging our River Parrett , to protect our residents.
Further more today news reports on lunchtime news, speaks of the Barrage, stopping the River Parrett from Breaching its banks. The Barrage, is to stop the incoming Tidal twice daily from depositing silt and Sludge on the incoming Tide, allowing also the Higher Volume of water, from rainfall to be pumped into the River on the Ebb Tides, allowing the Excess Rain water to flow out into the Bridgwater Bay, at Burnham on Sea.
It is the Mangement and dispersal of this Rainfall, that determines as to the flooding, on the Moors and Levels in Sedgemoor.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
The start of the work, in preventing future flooding has been occurring, out on the banks of the River Parrett, the First 8 Kilometers of Dredging is being done, my concerns are with the Environment Agency, who are still the Lead Organisation on the Ground. They have Identified a further 10 sections of the River, which need attention, but, in their own statement at last weeks Joint Community scrutiny Meeting, that this will NOT be dredged this winter 2014, WHY !! Is the Question, I would like answered. My own feeling is that, they have dredged, all they intend for now, under this first section of bank, then , if god forgive !! Them Not ?? We flood again, they the EA will say " We Dredged as you Asked " and it did not work !!!! Well we know that it needs a combination of the entire length of the River being dredged along with the pumping stations being upgraded and more permanent ones built to replace the outdated, but still used moorland ones. The Environment Agency, seem to want to operate on their own, whilst opting for the IDB (Internal Drainage Boards) to work along side, rather than with. The EA talk of cuts to their Budgets, but give no figures as to their actual Budgets, when they spent £33 Million on a Wetland Bird Sanctuary, instead of Dredging our River Parrett , to protect our residents. Further more today news reports on lunchtime news, speaks of the Barrage, stopping the River Parrett from Breaching its banks. The Barrage, is to stop the incoming Tidal twice daily from depositing silt and Sludge on the incoming Tide, allowing also the Higher Volume of water, from rainfall to be pumped into the River on the Ebb Tides, allowing the Excess Rain water to flow out into the Bridgwater Bay, at Burnham on Sea. It is the Mangement and dispersal of this Rainfall, that determines as to the flooding, on the Moors and Levels in Sedgemoor. David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl
  • Score: -6

1:43pm Tue 29 Jul 14

the voice of common sense says...

I quite clearly heard dave say, on live television that " money is no object, we will spend whatever is necessary to ensure that this will never happen again," he was stood on the bank of the river Parrett, with fiddle stranger in close proximity so that he heard every word as well. He went on to say that there was £130,000,000 pounds available!

That was six months ago, dave probably thinks that them there country bumkins will have forgotten what I said and carry on voting tory coz thats what they do.

While I'm on the subject, why didn't fiddle stranger get offered a job in the last reshuffle? Is it because he isn't very good? mmmmmmmm

Or perhaps dave didn't want to be overshadowed by an intellectual giant, I think the answer is fairly obvious
I quite clearly heard dave say, on live television that " money is no object, we will spend whatever is necessary to ensure that this will never happen again," he was stood on the bank of the river Parrett, with fiddle stranger in close proximity so that he heard every word as well. He went on to say that there was £130,000,000 pounds available! That was six months ago, dave probably thinks that them there country bumkins will have forgotten what I said and carry on voting tory coz thats what they do. While I'm on the subject, why didn't fiddle stranger get offered a job in the last reshuffle? Is it because he isn't very good? mmmmmmmm Or perhaps dave didn't want to be overshadowed by an intellectual giant, I think the answer is fairly obvious the voice of common sense
  • Score: 9

2:21pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Itsmeagen says...

Blue Owl - unfortunately not much good hooting about money that has gone and who did what when. It is the future that counts now. The question being asked is will this government cough up the money for a barrage in order to meet the revised Flood Plan (which they asked for) or has he got cold feet? Do you think they will come up with the money or not?
Blue Owl - unfortunately not much good hooting about money that has gone and who did what when. It is the future that counts now. The question being asked is will this government cough up the money for a barrage in order to meet the revised Flood Plan (which they asked for) or has he got cold feet? Do you think they will come up with the money or not? Itsmeagen
  • Score: 5

8:45pm Tue 29 Jul 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

which bit of "money is no object" don't you understand Dippy Dave?

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=S8FE-KJX
BaU

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=zfMmYR_v
jEE

of course, there are many other examples of government incompetence including Eric Pickles' pathetic efforts and Cameron's usual political double speak, squirmtastic u-turns and double nectar points attempts at the blame game

It also appears our very own double-barreled freeloader of an MP has gone back into hibernation although I do expect he will be available for pithy soundbites should another opportunity arise ie natural disaster/ death of a royal/ unveiling of a Blue Owl plasticine model on the banks of the Parrett.
which bit of "money is no object" don't you understand Dippy Dave? https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=S8FE-KJX BaU https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=zfMmYR_v jEE of course, there are many other examples of government incompetence including Eric Pickles' pathetic efforts and Cameron's usual political double speak, squirmtastic u-turns and double nectar points attempts at the blame game It also appears our very own double-barreled freeloader of an MP has gone back into hibernation although I do expect he will be available for pithy soundbites should another opportunity arise ie natural disaster/ death of a royal/ unveiling of a Blue Owl plasticine model on the banks of the Parrett. freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter
  • Score: 11

10:16pm Tue 29 Jul 14

jimeee says...

More been done in the last few months than was done in the past 10 years.
More been done in the last few months than was done in the past 10 years. jimeee
  • Score: 0

11:26pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Don't buy the sun says...

the voice of common sense wrote:
I quite clearly heard dave say, on live television that " money is no object, we will spend whatever is necessary to ensure that this will never happen again," he was stood on the bank of the river Parrett, with fiddle stranger in close proximity so that he heard every word as well. He went on to say that there was £130,000,000 pounds available!

That was six months ago, dave probably thinks that them there country bumkins will have forgotten what I said and carry on voting tory coz thats what they do.

While I'm on the subject, why didn't fiddle stranger get offered a job in the last reshuffle? Is it because he isn't very good? mmmmmmmm

Or perhaps dave didn't want to be overshadowed by an intellectual giant, I think the answer is fairly obvious
I think you will find there is a limit on the number of 'fiddlers' you can fit in a cabinet.
[quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: I quite clearly heard dave say, on live television that " money is no object, we will spend whatever is necessary to ensure that this will never happen again," he was stood on the bank of the river Parrett, with fiddle stranger in close proximity so that he heard every word as well. He went on to say that there was £130,000,000 pounds available! That was six months ago, dave probably thinks that them there country bumkins will have forgotten what I said and carry on voting tory coz thats what they do. While I'm on the subject, why didn't fiddle stranger get offered a job in the last reshuffle? Is it because he isn't very good? mmmmmmmm Or perhaps dave didn't want to be overshadowed by an intellectual giant, I think the answer is fairly obvious[/p][/quote]I think you will find there is a limit on the number of 'fiddlers' you can fit in a cabinet. Don't buy the sun
  • Score: 4

10:43am Wed 30 Jul 14

Blue Owl says...

freddie_mercury_unde
rcover_reporter
wrote:
which bit of "money is no object" don't you understand Dippy Dave?

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=S8FE-KJX

BaU

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=zfMmYR_v

jEE

of course, there are many other examples of government incompetence including Eric Pickles' pathetic efforts and Cameron's usual political double speak, squirmtastic u-turns and double nectar points attempts at the blame game

It also appears our very own double-barreled freeloader of an MP has gone back into hibernation although I do expect he will be available for pithy soundbites should another opportunity arise ie natural disaster/ death of a royal/ unveiling of a Blue Owl plasticine model on the banks of the Parrett.
You really are a Moron. By any standards !! You start of every Post, with an insult, so I have had to follow your lead, to be on your Wavelength, you carry on criticising from you Annominity !! Safe in the Knowledge that you have No Accountability !!!
Our MP has fully supported the Flood efforts, from the very beginning, only last week he , like myself was @ SDC Joint Scrutiny Committee, giving evidence, and presenting the Governments 20 yr Plan for the Levels and Moors, dredging and the Potential Barrage. Multimillion Pound schemes are not enacted overnight.
So, he hasn't gone into hibernation as you refer, if you think your dippy Dave comments, hold any water, it's like " off a Ducks Back to Me!!
The more you continue with you contemptuous comments, really shows what you stand for. Nothing !!!
I am still awaiting, some form of sense to come from your Post!! Some Hope, No Hope !!!!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]freddie_mercury_unde rcover_reporter[/bold] wrote: which bit of "money is no object" don't you understand Dippy Dave? https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=S8FE-KJX BaU https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=zfMmYR_v jEE of course, there are many other examples of government incompetence including Eric Pickles' pathetic efforts and Cameron's usual political double speak, squirmtastic u-turns and double nectar points attempts at the blame game It also appears our very own double-barreled freeloader of an MP has gone back into hibernation although I do expect he will be available for pithy soundbites should another opportunity arise ie natural disaster/ death of a royal/ unveiling of a Blue Owl plasticine model on the banks of the Parrett.[/p][/quote]You really are a Moron. By any standards !! You start of every Post, with an insult, so I have had to follow your lead, to be on your Wavelength, you carry on criticising from you Annominity !! Safe in the Knowledge that you have No Accountability !!! Our MP has fully supported the Flood efforts, from the very beginning, only last week he , like myself was @ SDC Joint Scrutiny Committee, giving evidence, and presenting the Governments 20 yr Plan for the Levels and Moors, dredging and the Potential Barrage. Multimillion Pound schemes are not enacted overnight. So, he hasn't gone into hibernation as you refer, if you think your dippy Dave comments, hold any water, it's like " off a Ducks Back to Me!! The more you continue with you contemptuous comments, really shows what you stand for. Nothing !!! I am still awaiting, some form of sense to come from your Post!! Some Hope, No Hope !!!! David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl
  • Score: -11

1:10pm Wed 30 Jul 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

Blue Owl wrote:
freddie_mercury_unde

rcover_reporter
wrote:
which bit of "money is no object" don't you understand Dippy Dave?

https://www.youtube.


com/watch?v=S8FE-KJX


BaU

https://www.youtube.


com/watch?v=zfMmYR_v


jEE

of course, there are many other examples of government incompetence including Eric Pickles' pathetic efforts and Cameron's usual political double speak, squirmtastic u-turns and double nectar points attempts at the blame game

It also appears our very own double-barreled freeloader of an MP has gone back into hibernation although I do expect he will be available for pithy soundbites should another opportunity arise ie natural disaster/ death of a royal/ unveiling of a Blue Owl plasticine model on the banks of the Parrett.
You really are a Moron. By any standards !! You start of every Post, with an insult, so I have had to follow your lead, to be on your Wavelength, you carry on criticising from you Annominity !! Safe in the Knowledge that you have No Accountability !!!
Our MP has fully supported the Flood efforts, from the very beginning, only last week he , like myself was @ SDC Joint Scrutiny Committee, giving evidence, and presenting the Governments 20 yr Plan for the Levels and Moors, dredging and the Potential Barrage. Multimillion Pound schemes are not enacted overnight.
So, he hasn't gone into hibernation as you refer, if you think your dippy Dave comments, hold any water, it's like " off a Ducks Back to Me!!
The more you continue with you contemptuous comments, really shows what you stand for. Nothing !!!
I am still awaiting, some form of sense to come from your Post!! Some Hope, No Hope !!!!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Did you hold hands and sing a happy song? (With one trouser leg rolled up of course)
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freddie_mercury_unde rcover_reporter[/bold] wrote: which bit of "money is no object" don't you understand Dippy Dave? https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=S8FE-KJX BaU https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=zfMmYR_v jEE of course, there are many other examples of government incompetence including Eric Pickles' pathetic efforts and Cameron's usual political double speak, squirmtastic u-turns and double nectar points attempts at the blame game It also appears our very own double-barreled freeloader of an MP has gone back into hibernation although I do expect he will be available for pithy soundbites should another opportunity arise ie natural disaster/ death of a royal/ unveiling of a Blue Owl plasticine model on the banks of the Parrett.[/p][/quote]You really are a Moron. By any standards !! You start of every Post, with an insult, so I have had to follow your lead, to be on your Wavelength, you carry on criticising from you Annominity !! Safe in the Knowledge that you have No Accountability !!! Our MP has fully supported the Flood efforts, from the very beginning, only last week he , like myself was @ SDC Joint Scrutiny Committee, giving evidence, and presenting the Governments 20 yr Plan for the Levels and Moors, dredging and the Potential Barrage. Multimillion Pound schemes are not enacted overnight. So, he hasn't gone into hibernation as you refer, if you think your dippy Dave comments, hold any water, it's like " off a Ducks Back to Me!! The more you continue with you contemptuous comments, really shows what you stand for. Nothing !!! I am still awaiting, some form of sense to come from your Post!! Some Hope, No Hope !!!! David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]Did you hold hands and sing a happy song? (With one trouser leg rolled up of course) freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter
  • Score: 8

5:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Blue Owl says...

Freddie the Village Idiot !! Or have you been raised to the Town Dolt !!
There's one thing for certain, it shows that your ignorance has no boundaries, as you " Mock A Society" the Freemasons, with contempt for the good Charity work we do, every day. !! Remember £200.000 for the Local needy Flood victims, what have you done or given ???.
The FreeMasons raise and give to More Charitable Causes than the National Lottery. But, why should that mean any thing to you, it shows your pathetic take on life!!
Everyone else's efforts you dismiss with your pathetic personal views, I will not bother to reply to your Inain Comments, as you are not worthy.
David L Preece
Blue- Owl
Freddie the Village Idiot !! Or have you been raised to the Town Dolt !! There's one thing for certain, it shows that your ignorance has no boundaries, as you " Mock A Society" the Freemasons, with contempt for the good Charity work we do, every day. !! Remember £200.000 for the Local needy Flood victims, what have you done or given ???. The FreeMasons raise and give to More Charitable Causes than the National Lottery. But, why should that mean any thing to you, it shows your pathetic take on life!! Everyone else's efforts you dismiss with your pathetic personal views, I will not bother to reply to your Inain Comments, as you are not worthy. David L Preece Blue- Owl Blue Owl
  • Score: -11

5:16pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Itsmeagen says...

Blue Owl - I was not rude, you must have been so fired up by Freddie...........Re
porter that you overlooked mine. Here it is again:

'Blue Owl - unfortunately not much good hooting about money that has gone and who did what when. It is the future that counts now.

The question being asked is will this government cough up the money for a barrage in order to meet the revised Flood Plan (which they asked for) or has he got cold feet?

Do you think they will come up with the money or not ?'
Blue Owl - I was not rude, you must have been so fired up by Freddie...........Re porter that you overlooked mine. Here it is again: 'Blue Owl - unfortunately not much good hooting about money that has gone and who did what when. It is the future that counts now. The question being asked is will this government cough up the money for a barrage in order to meet the revised Flood Plan (which they asked for) or has he got cold feet? Do you think they will come up with the money or not ?' Itsmeagen
  • Score: 4

6:01pm Wed 30 Jul 14

freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter says...

Blue Owl wrote:
Freddie the Village Idiot !! Or have you been raised to the Town Dolt !!
There's one thing for certain, it shows that your ignorance has no boundaries, as you " Mock A Society" the Freemasons, with contempt for the good Charity work we do, every day. !! Remember £200.000 for the Local needy Flood victims, what have you done or given ???.
The FreeMasons raise and give to More Charitable Causes than the National Lottery. But, why should that mean any thing to you, it shows your pathetic take on life!!
Everyone else's efforts you dismiss with your pathetic personal views, I will not bother to reply to your Inain Comments, as you are not worthy.
David L Preece
Blue- Owl
My apologies Dave - I can't think what came over me when I imagined you were involved in local politics and the freemasons for self aggrandizement and narcissistic reasons
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: Freddie the Village Idiot !! Or have you been raised to the Town Dolt !! There's one thing for certain, it shows that your ignorance has no boundaries, as you " Mock A Society" the Freemasons, with contempt for the good Charity work we do, every day. !! Remember £200.000 for the Local needy Flood victims, what have you done or given ???. The FreeMasons raise and give to More Charitable Causes than the National Lottery. But, why should that mean any thing to you, it shows your pathetic take on life!! Everyone else's efforts you dismiss with your pathetic personal views, I will not bother to reply to your Inain Comments, as you are not worthy. David L Preece Blue- Owl[/p][/quote]My apologies Dave - I can't think what came over me when I imagined you were involved in local politics and the freemasons for self aggrandizement and narcissistic reasons freddie_mercury_undercover_reporter
  • Score: 7

8:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

the voice of common sense says...

freddie_mercury_unde
rcover_reporter
wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
Freddie the Village Idiot !! Or have you been raised to the Town Dolt !!
There's one thing for certain, it shows that your ignorance has no boundaries, as you " Mock A Society" the Freemasons, with contempt for the good Charity work we do, every day. !! Remember £200.000 for the Local needy Flood victims, what have you done or given ???.
The FreeMasons raise and give to More Charitable Causes than the National Lottery. But, why should that mean any thing to you, it shows your pathetic take on life!!
Everyone else's efforts you dismiss with your pathetic personal views, I will not bother to reply to your Inain Comments, as you are not worthy.
David L Preece
Blue- Owl
My apologies Dave - I can't think what came over me when I imagined you were involved in local politics and the freemasons for self aggrandizement and narcissistic reasons
30 -love to freddie I think
[quote][p][bold]freddie_mercury_unde rcover_reporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: Freddie the Village Idiot !! Or have you been raised to the Town Dolt !! There's one thing for certain, it shows that your ignorance has no boundaries, as you " Mock A Society" the Freemasons, with contempt for the good Charity work we do, every day. !! Remember £200.000 for the Local needy Flood victims, what have you done or given ???. The FreeMasons raise and give to More Charitable Causes than the National Lottery. But, why should that mean any thing to you, it shows your pathetic take on life!! Everyone else's efforts you dismiss with your pathetic personal views, I will not bother to reply to your Inain Comments, as you are not worthy. David L Preece Blue- Owl[/p][/quote]My apologies Dave - I can't think what came over me when I imagined you were involved in local politics and the freemasons for self aggrandizement and narcissistic reasons[/p][/quote]30 -love to freddie I think the voice of common sense
  • Score: 6

10:00am Thu 31 Jul 14

Blue Owl says...

Itsmeagen wrote:
Blue Owl - I was not rude, you must have been so fired up by Freddie...........Re

porter that you overlooked mine. Here it is again:

'Blue Owl - unfortunately not much good hooting about money that has gone and who did what when. It is the future that counts now.

The question being asked is will this government cough up the money for a barrage in order to meet the revised Flood Plan (which they asked for) or has he got cold feet?

Do you think they will come up with the money or not ?'
Itsmegan, I did not over look your Post, like everyone else, I expect David Cameron to stand by his "Pledge that the Money will be forth coming" to Sedgemoor to so out and remedy the flooding issues, that have been endured by those who were affected, by the decisions of the Environment Agency, who by their Actions and inactions caused this devestating flooding of homes and Farms.
Whilst, last weeks Joint SDC Scrutiny Meeting Friday 25 th was called to Question all parties involved, from the Police, Emergency Agencies, SDC
Environment Agency, etc.
It is evident that, for all to see a phase of Bank Dredging has been started and is progressing from BurrowBridge towards the Pumping Station at Moorland. However, in questions put to them, they intend only to dredge this Section of Bank. Despite, a call from myself and others for more Bank and indeed the Riverbed sludge to be removed. ?? They have identified a further 10 sites along the River Parrett 's banks, But said quite definatly
that this would not be done this Winter of 2014-15.
On further questions, I asked what was their Budget, no response, why they would not work in equal partnership with the Internal Drainage Boards, they said that the I DB should have their own Independant Funding, and work seperatly, I do not understand their reasoning or logic for this, other than, they want to carry on as before. which caused the last 2 years of Devestation.
More open accountability is required, from the Environment Agency, then perhaps monies will be spent where they need to be, not on Bloody Bird Sanctuaries @ Steart, at a cost of £33 Million Pounds.
All I can see from their answers were, that they were more interested in complying with EU Legislation, than protecting our residents, who live on the Moors and Levels, as do not forget, they lowered the " Spillway " thus diverting water away from Taunton onto the Moors and Levels, not the Designated FLOODPLAINS. Then delayed in getting sufficient Pumping in place quick enough to Pump the Rain water off the Land, out to sea.
I have lost all confidence in the Management of the a Environment Agency, not the Guys on the Ground who have hade to do what they are instructed, by the Policies Adopted.
I have little faith in their abilities to stop a further year of Flooding this coming Winter, I do hope that My fears are not brought to fulfilment .
David L Preece
Blue -Owl
[quote][p][bold]Itsmeagen[/bold] wrote: Blue Owl - I was not rude, you must have been so fired up by Freddie...........Re porter that you overlooked mine. Here it is again: 'Blue Owl - unfortunately not much good hooting about money that has gone and who did what when. It is the future that counts now. The question being asked is will this government cough up the money for a barrage in order to meet the revised Flood Plan (which they asked for) or has he got cold feet? Do you think they will come up with the money or not ?'[/p][/quote]Itsmegan, I did not over look your Post, like everyone else, I expect David Cameron to stand by his "Pledge that the Money will be forth coming" to Sedgemoor to so out and remedy the flooding issues, that have been endured by those who were affected, by the decisions of the Environment Agency, who by their Actions and inactions caused this devestating flooding of homes and Farms. Whilst, last weeks Joint SDC Scrutiny Meeting Friday 25 th was called to Question all parties involved, from the Police, Emergency Agencies, SDC Environment Agency, etc. It is evident that, for all to see a phase of Bank Dredging has been started and is progressing from BurrowBridge towards the Pumping Station at Moorland. However, in questions put to them, they intend only to dredge this Section of Bank. Despite, a call from myself and others for more Bank and indeed the Riverbed sludge to be removed. ?? They have identified a further 10 sites along the River Parrett 's banks, But said quite definatly that this would not be done this Winter of 2014-15. On further questions, I asked what was their Budget, no response, why they would not work in equal partnership with the Internal Drainage Boards, they said that the I DB should have their own Independant Funding, and work seperatly, I do not understand their reasoning or logic for this, other than, they want to carry on as before. which caused the last 2 years of Devestation. More open accountability is required, from the Environment Agency, then perhaps monies will be spent where they need to be, not on Bloody Bird Sanctuaries @ Steart, at a cost of £33 Million Pounds. All I can see from their answers were, that they were more interested in complying with EU Legislation, than protecting our residents, who live on the Moors and Levels, as do not forget, they lowered the " Spillway " thus diverting water away from Taunton onto the Moors and Levels, not the Designated FLOODPLAINS. Then delayed in getting sufficient Pumping in place quick enough to Pump the Rain water off the Land, out to sea. I have lost all confidence in the Management of the a Environment Agency, not the Guys on the Ground who have hade to do what they are instructed, by the Policies Adopted. I have little faith in their abilities to stop a further year of Flooding this coming Winter, I do hope that My fears are not brought to fulfilment . David L Preece Blue -Owl Blue Owl
  • Score: -7

10:52am Thu 31 Jul 14

Itsmeagen says...

You are covering the same ground again. What you think should happen and what will happen are probably two completely different things. As you can see from today's article the pot is emptying already where dredging is concerned. You also have to take into account the budget was cut when this government took over. The treasury know whats required and if the money is not there to adequately dredge the river properly (as you want and I agree), then they are not stumping up the cash.

If you really want to push this forward rather than stand for election as a recognised member of the community perhaps you should start your own lobbying group of local farmers and residents in affected areas and threaten to use the power of the ballot box to make their point. Surely they will support you if they really want to get the local MP Liddell - Granger and the governments attention. With the statement being made in the autumn and the election next year seems a reasonable plan.

As well meaning as you might be attending council meetings and expressing you opinions at council meetings, repeating past failings will not get the money required for a barrage.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that actions are required, not words.
You are covering the same ground again. What you think should happen and what will happen are probably two completely different things. As you can see from today's article the pot is emptying already where dredging is concerned. You also have to take into account the budget was cut when this government took over. The treasury know whats required and if the money is not there to adequately dredge the river properly (as you want and I agree), then they are not stumping up the cash. If you really want to push this forward rather than stand for election as a recognised member of the community perhaps you should start your own lobbying group of local farmers and residents in affected areas and threaten to use the power of the ballot box to make their point. Surely they will support you if they really want to get the local MP Liddell - Granger and the governments attention. With the statement being made in the autumn and the election next year seems a reasonable plan. As well meaning as you might be attending council meetings and expressing you opinions at council meetings, repeating past failings will not get the money required for a barrage. I suppose what I am trying to say is that actions are required, not words. Itsmeagen
  • Score: 4

3:03pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Blue Owl says...

Itsmeagen wrote:
You are covering the same ground again. What you think should happen and what will happen are probably two completely different things. As you can see from today's article the pot is emptying already where dredging is concerned. You also have to take into account the budget was cut when this government took over. The treasury know whats required and if the money is not there to adequately dredge the river properly (as you want and I agree), then they are not stumping up the cash.

If you really want to push this forward rather than stand for election as a recognised member of the community perhaps you should start your own lobbying group of local farmers and residents in affected areas and threaten to use the power of the ballot box to make their point. Surely they will support you if they really want to get the local MP Liddell - Granger and the governments attention. With the statement being made in the autumn and the election next year seems a reasonable plan.

As well meaning as you might be attending council meetings and expressing you opinions at council meetings, repeating past failings will not get the money required for a barrage.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that actions are required, not words.
It seems that you also, along with Freddie wants to tell me as to what I should and should not do, regarding this issue, I did note your usage of Freddie's " it's no good hooting " about what has gone on, it's about the future, in you Post. !!! Why, you expect me to Answer every Tom Dick and Harry's post. It is not an agony Aunts Column, where I reply !!!
That is not why I post, As like unlike yourselves, I am not allowed to state a personal view , without it being jumped on and criticised. So, do not expect me to take on board your views telling me what I need to do.
I see very few others maintaining a stance on this issue, or indeed any other Local issues, like the EDF Highways.
Lots of Mouthpiece Supporters For Ukip in May, but have all gone back into their personal space, of safety. To re-appear next year for the May Elections 2015.
My own thoughts are that we will get the finances, for the 20 year Plan, for the Somerset Levels, it is the delivery and as to who the Delivery is assigned to that concerns me., if it is jointly Administered by the E A and
IDB, then I feel more confident, in its time-line.
Have you read the Final Somerset Levels and Moors Action Plan ??
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Ps. You may be well intentioned in your Posts, but if you use the Patronising denigrating verbal abuse, I will not respond and you can join Freddie !!!
[quote][p][bold]Itsmeagen[/bold] wrote: You are covering the same ground again. What you think should happen and what will happen are probably two completely different things. As you can see from today's article the pot is emptying already where dredging is concerned. You also have to take into account the budget was cut when this government took over. The treasury know whats required and if the money is not there to adequately dredge the river properly (as you want and I agree), then they are not stumping up the cash. If you really want to push this forward rather than stand for election as a recognised member of the community perhaps you should start your own lobbying group of local farmers and residents in affected areas and threaten to use the power of the ballot box to make their point. Surely they will support you if they really want to get the local MP Liddell - Granger and the governments attention. With the statement being made in the autumn and the election next year seems a reasonable plan. As well meaning as you might be attending council meetings and expressing you opinions at council meetings, repeating past failings will not get the money required for a barrage. I suppose what I am trying to say is that actions are required, not words.[/p][/quote]It seems that you also, along with Freddie wants to tell me as to what I should and should not do, regarding this issue, I did note your usage of Freddie's " it's no good hooting " about what has gone on, it's about the future, in you Post. !!! Why, you expect me to Answer every Tom Dick and Harry's post. It is not an agony Aunts Column, where I reply !!! That is not why I post, As like unlike yourselves, I am not allowed to state a personal view , without it being jumped on and criticised. So, do not expect me to take on board your views telling me what I need to do. I see very few others maintaining a stance on this issue, or indeed any other Local issues, like the EDF Highways. Lots of Mouthpiece Supporters For Ukip in May, but have all gone back into their personal space, of safety. To re-appear next year for the May Elections 2015. My own thoughts are that we will get the finances, for the 20 year Plan, for the Somerset Levels, it is the delivery and as to who the Delivery is assigned to that concerns me., if it is jointly Administered by the E A and IDB, then I feel more confident, in its time-line. Have you read the Final Somerset Levels and Moors Action Plan ?? David L Preece Blue-Owl Ps. You may be well intentioned in your Posts, but if you use the Patronising denigrating verbal abuse, I will not respond and you can join Freddie !!! Blue Owl
  • Score: -6

9:38pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Itsmeagen says...

Firstly I am new on here and not telling you to do anything, and you seem to be taking an aggressive stance because I am either putting my point of view that does not fit with your ideology or because I just don't agree with you. I am the one being jumped on by you as it seems you cannot give a rational succinct response to the points I have raised so you go on the attack. As for using the term hooting, you have called yourself Blue Owl so not unnatural the term might be used.

You complain about people not taking a stance, well I have but it is my own not yours.

I think what I have said is relevant and not insulting at all so perhaps you might respond properly (without making a speech) to the points I put forward in my post.

Oh, the action plan calls for a barrier or sluice which is what I am trying to debate whether David Cameron will come up with the money as promised.

Put simply do you think the government will honour it promise and commit money for a barrier in the autumn statement??

Who is going to run the show and manage the levels is a separate argument.
Firstly I am new on here and not telling you to do anything, and you seem to be taking an aggressive stance because I am either putting my point of view that does not fit with your ideology or because I just don't agree with you. I am the one being jumped on by you as it seems you cannot give a rational succinct response to the points I have raised so you go on the attack. As for using the term hooting, you have called yourself Blue Owl so not unnatural the term might be used. You complain about people not taking a stance, well I have but it is my own not yours. I think what I have said is relevant and not insulting at all so perhaps you might respond properly (without making a speech) to the points I put forward in my post. Oh, the action plan calls for a barrier or sluice which is what I am trying to debate whether David Cameron will come up with the money as promised. Put simply do you think the government will honour it promise and commit money for a barrier in the autumn statement?? Who is going to run the show and manage the levels is a separate argument. Itsmeagen
  • Score: 6

9:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

twinkles says...

Funny how it turns into a slanging match after a certain you-know-hoot turns up.
Funny how it turns into a slanging match after a certain you-know-hoot turns up. twinkles
  • Score: 5

11:17am Fri 1 Aug 14

Itsmeagen says...

twinkles - I am trying to have a rational debate and not get drawn into a slanging match, hopefully Blue Owl will give a brief and direct reply to the actual points I have put forward.
twinkles - I am trying to have a rational debate and not get drawn into a slanging match, hopefully Blue Owl will give a brief and direct reply to the actual points I have put forward. Itsmeagen
  • Score: 4

1:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

awayswing says...

For Itsmeagen.

Recently ILG suggested that the barrage could be part funded by a local tax.At the time I put up a comment saying that as far as I was aware nowhere else in the country,that has suffered flooding,has had to do this.I saw no reason why we should have to,we pay our taxes the same as anywhere in this country.At the time there was quite some support for my view.Since then it has become obvious that despite Cameron's talk about money being no object that the money would not be forthcoming.Since then SCC have made it plain that they are only interested in making financial cuts and have no interest in Sedgemoor.
For Itsmeagen. Recently ILG suggested that the barrage could be part funded by a local tax.At the time I put up a comment saying that as far as I was aware nowhere else in the country,that has suffered flooding,has had to do this.I saw no reason why we should have to,we pay our taxes the same as anywhere in this country.At the time there was quite some support for my view.Since then it has become obvious that despite Cameron's talk about money being no object that the money would not be forthcoming.Since then SCC have made it plain that they are only interested in making financial cuts and have no interest in Sedgemoor. awayswing
  • Score: 4

3:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Blue Owl says...

Itsmeagen wrote:
twinkles - I am trying to have a rational debate and not get drawn into a slanging match, hopefully Blue Owl will give a brief and direct reply to the actual points I have put forward.
Itsmegan, I also do not want a slanging match, I can only reply, respond with my personal believe, you ask me as to whether David Cameron will Support the Funding of the Parrett Sluice / Barrage, and further funding for the 20 yr Moors & Levels Dredging and needed remedial works Identified.
Yes, I do, only because our Area, sustained Long and persistent flooding over 3-4 months, and Unfortunatly being the First Large scale area to suffer, following the previous 2013 rainfalls, some 40 SQ Miles of Somerset under 4-6 ft and more of Water. We therefore got the Attention of Government and the National News Teams around the World.
With reference to the point you make re us the Local population funding the Barrage through Local Taxation, we already are, my self included, though I have deferred my payment until a Planning Consent I have is the foundation are started, then I will have to pay a contribution which is Compulsory. This has been in Existance for some 4-5 years now, on all new homes built. Within Sedgemoor.
You make a comment, re SCC not wanting to contribute to anything in Sedgemoor, just cuts !! Which you will see, as to why recently, I posted as to where the £425 Million coming into SCC Coffers was going to be spent on. Taunton Administration, within County Hall seem to forget that their Financial Incomes received are for all of the County, not just themselves, Yeovil and Wellington, which seem to be favoured, when allocation of Funding Budgets.."....
I can give you no further insight, as I am not party to anything within SDC as Freddie implies, nor do I make it up when I do not know !! But I do have an opinion based on experience. After 8 yrs in Local Government as a Former Cllr.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Itsmeagen[/bold] wrote: twinkles - I am trying to have a rational debate and not get drawn into a slanging match, hopefully Blue Owl will give a brief and direct reply to the actual points I have put forward.[/p][/quote]Itsmegan, I also do not want a slanging match, I can only reply, respond with my personal believe, you ask me as to whether David Cameron will Support the Funding of the Parrett Sluice / Barrage, and further funding for the 20 yr Moors & Levels Dredging and needed remedial works Identified. Yes, I do, only because our Area, sustained Long and persistent flooding over 3-4 months, and Unfortunatly being the First Large scale area to suffer, following the previous 2013 rainfalls, some 40 SQ Miles of Somerset under 4-6 ft and more of Water. We therefore got the Attention of Government and the National News Teams around the World. With reference to the point you make re us the Local population funding the Barrage through Local Taxation, we already are, my self included, though I have deferred my payment until a Planning Consent I have is the foundation are started, then I will have to pay a contribution which is Compulsory. This has been in Existance for some 4-5 years now, on all new homes built. Within Sedgemoor. You make a comment, re SCC not wanting to contribute to anything in Sedgemoor, just cuts !! Which you will see, as to why recently, I posted as to where the £425 Million coming into SCC Coffers was going to be spent on. Taunton Administration, within County Hall seem to forget that their Financial Incomes received are for all of the County, not just themselves, Yeovil and Wellington, which seem to be favoured, when allocation of Funding Budgets..".... I can give you no further insight, as I am not party to anything within SDC as Freddie implies, nor do I make it up when I do not know !! But I do have an opinion based on experience. After 8 yrs in Local Government as a Former Cllr. David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl
  • Score: -1

4:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Itsmeagen says...

Thanks Blue Owl - Although it was not me that mentioned the local tax or SCC it was 'AWAYSWING'.

It is good that you take the questions seriously and you try to make your answers as complete as possible but sometimes 'less is more' and definitely easier to digest (not meant to be an insult but a constructive comment).

Liz Truss the Minister representing David Cameron said -

"I want to look at proposals for a barrage/sluice but I need to look at the full evidence before putting my findings forward for the Autumn Statement.”

Not too convincing. If they were going to come up with the money they would have done so already as they promised surely instead of playing with words. I would think the best way to rattle their cage is for affected communities to threaten to ignore the ballot box at the next election. After all from what I can see Ian LG has just traded insults and seems to be virtually invisible most of the time, as with a lot of politicians only pop up for the publicity.

Just trying to be objective after all you would like to see the barrier go ahead I presume. Looks like we are not top of the list.

https://www.gov.uk/g
overnment/news/seasi
de-funding-success-f
or-10-coastal-towns
Thanks Blue Owl - Although it was not me that mentioned the local tax or SCC it was 'AWAYSWING'. It is good that you take the questions seriously and you try to make your answers as complete as possible but sometimes 'less is more' and definitely easier to digest (not meant to be an insult but a constructive comment). Liz Truss the Minister representing David Cameron said - "I want to look at proposals for a barrage/sluice but I need to look at the full evidence before putting my findings forward for the Autumn Statement.” Not too convincing. If they were going to come up with the money they would have done so already as they promised surely instead of playing with words. I would think the best way to rattle their cage is for affected communities to threaten to ignore the ballot box at the next election. After all from what I can see Ian LG has just traded insults and seems to be virtually invisible most of the time, as with a lot of politicians only pop up for the publicity. Just trying to be objective after all you would like to see the barrier go ahead I presume. Looks like we are not top of the list. https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/news/seasi de-funding-success-f or-10-coastal-towns Itsmeagen
  • Score: 1

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