General Election Result: LibDem Jeremy Browne wins Taunton Deane

Somerset County Gazette: General Election Result: LibDem Jeremy Browne wins Taunton Deane General Election Result: LibDem Jeremy Browne wins Taunton Deane

LibDem Jeremy Browne has won the Taunton Deane seat in the General Election.

Mr Browne held his seat with a majority of 4,000 votes over Conservative candidate Mark Formosa after a fierce election battle.

It is the first time a political party has successfully defended the Taunton constituency since David Nicholson kept the seat in Tory hands in 1992.

The result was announced at about 2.50am by returning officer Penny James, chief executive of Taunton Deane Council, at the count at Blackbrook Pavilion, Taunton.

Taunton Deane Constituency General Election Result:

  • Jeremy Browne (LibDem) 28,531 votes.
  • Mark Formosa (Conservative) 24,538 votes.

Mr Browne told the County Gazette: "I'm feeling elated. I'm very grateful to the people in Taunton Deane who voted to me.

"I will do my absolute best to serve everybody in this constituency.

"I'm thrilled to be endorsed by people in this area.

"I have tried to be a hands-on, successful hard working MP for the area. I have tried to represent the mainstream values and priorities of people living in Taunton Deane."

Mr Formosa said: "I'm disappointed.

"We made up a lot of lost ground and almost hit 25,000 votes."

But he said the Tories lost out because the Labour and UKIP votes collapsed and his party had not benefited from that.

He added: "Whoever fights Taunton Deane next time will have a different scenario."

Mr Formosa said he was not going to rush into a quick decision about his future.

Mr Jevon said: "It could have been a lot worse - we retained our deposit.

"I'm happy that Jeremy Browne continues in his role - he's been a really good MP.

"It was always going to be difficult for Labour here."

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3:27am Fri 7 May 10

souwesterly says...

Well done Jeremy.
But what a travesty of justice.
at 3.25 am, you're only 32,000 votes off beating the Labour Party for popularity.
And yet the Lib Dems have only 9 seats against 99 for the Cons and 43 for Labour.....all because of the boundary rules.
Bring in Proportional Representation - quickly.
Well done Jeremy. But what a travesty of justice. at 3.25 am, you're only 32,000 votes off beating the Labour Party for popularity. And yet the Lib Dems have only 9 seats against 99 for the Cons and 43 for Labour.....all because of the boundary rules. Bring in Proportional Representation - quickly. souwesterly
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4:10am Fri 7 May 10

souwesterly says...

4.10 am
I love it that the Lib Dem voting total in England has now exceeded the Labour vote - and so the BBCs Swingometer now shows how much the vote has swung to the Conservatives from the Lib Dems rather than from Labour.
Somewhat mucked up their clever graphics......
4.10 am I love it that the Lib Dem voting total in England has now exceeded the Labour vote - and so the BBCs Swingometer now shows how much the vote has swung to the Conservatives from the Lib Dems rather than from Labour. Somewhat mucked up their clever graphics...... souwesterly
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9:02am Fri 7 May 10

souwesterly says...

Oh come on, FIELDS O'D,
Could you really put up with another 4 years of Brown's bullying and betrayal?
Cameron may be all cunning and clever but at least he'll bring something of a change to the country.....whether for the better is yet to be seen.
By supporting the Lib Dems, I don't think we were sticking up for Nick Clegg - we were giving Jeremy Browne a further chance to improve Somerset.
Better his efforts than the alternatives.....
Oh come on, FIELDS O'D, Could you really put up with another 4 years of Brown's bullying and betrayal? Cameron may be all cunning and clever but at least he'll bring something of a change to the country.....whether for the better is yet to be seen. By supporting the Lib Dems, I don't think we were sticking up for Nick Clegg - we were giving Jeremy Browne a further chance to improve Somerset. Better his efforts than the alternatives..... souwesterly
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9:38am Fri 7 May 10

IQ says...

Fantastic result - and the rise in majority had to be partly thanks to the Gazette for it's appalling reporting and bias.
Fantastic result - and the rise in majority had to be partly thanks to the Gazette for it's appalling reporting and bias. IQ
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1:15pm Fri 7 May 10

S1mon says...

Does this mean we can look forward to the last pompous "Mark Formosa Says ..." column in the gazette.
Might I respectfully suggest:
"Mark Formosa Says ... goodbye"
Does this mean we can look forward to the last pompous "Mark Formosa Says ..." column in the gazette. Might I respectfully suggest: "Mark Formosa Says ... goodbye" S1mon
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1:30pm Fri 7 May 10

GDPA says...

What a shame! Having said that, Jeremy Brown deserved to win due to his efforts and the efforts of his campaigners. They flooded the town and knocked on all the doors. I never once saw a Tory representative; proving that success is never an accident.
What a shame! Having said that, Jeremy Brown deserved to win due to his efforts and the efforts of his campaigners. They flooded the town and knocked on all the doors. I never once saw a Tory representative; proving that success is never an accident. GDPA
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1:33pm Fri 7 May 10

Taunton_chap says...

Oh no there's a national houaing shortage we should of voted Tory so we have record social housing shortage, cash strapped nhs, double dip recession, record vat rate and lots of nice people inheriting an 6 billion.

Sounds so appealing dam should of voted Tory!
Oh no there's a national houaing shortage we should of voted Tory so we have record social housing shortage, cash strapped nhs, double dip recession, record vat rate and lots of nice people inheriting an 6 billion. Sounds so appealing dam should of voted Tory! Taunton_chap
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2:17pm Fri 7 May 10

scrumpyman says...

Congratulations Mr Browne! You deserved to win as your campaign was by far and away the best. There was a lack of Tory canvassing in my area of Taunton whcih obviously contributed to their failure to win the seat. Mr Formosa can't blame the UKIP vote as that wouldn't have been enough to win the seat. Next time the Tories need to convince the Lib Dem voters to support them and to campaign more positively for example not rely on the slogan "vote Lib Dem and you'll get a Labour government". Scare tactics don't win votes as has been demonstrated yesterday.
Congratulations Mr Browne! You deserved to win as your campaign was by far and away the best. There was a lack of Tory canvassing in my area of Taunton whcih obviously contributed to their failure to win the seat. Mr Formosa can't blame the UKIP vote as that wouldn't have been enough to win the seat. Next time the Tories need to convince the Lib Dem voters to support them and to campaign more positively for example not rely on the slogan "vote Lib Dem and you'll get a Labour government". Scare tactics don't win votes as has been demonstrated yesterday. scrumpyman
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3:09pm Fri 7 May 10

the-doctor46 says...

oh dear another 4 years of Jeremy brownes excessive spending on second home furnishings! A posh londoner who is has no real tie with taunton
oh dear another 4 years of Jeremy brownes excessive spending on second home furnishings! A posh londoner who is has no real tie with taunton the-doctor46
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7:10pm Fri 7 May 10

MilkmanDave says...

Well done Jeremy, just goes to show how nine years of hard work is it's own reward.

All the best for the future
Well done Jeremy, just goes to show how nine years of hard work is it's own reward. All the best for the future MilkmanDave
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8:20pm Fri 7 May 10

Taunton_chap says...

Here we go he buys a couple of bits from john lewis and all of sudden his tauntons jacqui smith. Not relflected by the larger majority than last time.

Whilst I don't agree with his slightly lavish spending, he is a saint when compared to the tory mp's or most of browns cronies!

He's not perfect but his far from a major player in the expenses scandle so pipe down for christs sake.

Bet u voted Tory and they could tax u to death but heaven forbid try spend 1700 quid on a bed! Narrow viewed idiot!
Here we go he buys a couple of bits from john lewis and all of sudden his tauntons jacqui smith. Not relflected by the larger majority than last time. Whilst I don't agree with his slightly lavish spending, he is a saint when compared to the tory mp's or most of browns cronies! He's not perfect but his far from a major player in the expenses scandle so pipe down for christs sake. Bet u voted Tory and they could tax u to death but heaven forbid try spend 1700 quid on a bed! Narrow viewed idiot! Taunton_chap
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8:27pm Fri 7 May 10

Dr Dave says...

Well done Jeremy!
Well done Jeremy! Dr Dave
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8:49am Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

"Narrow viewed idiot!"

Back to foul mouthed mode again. HOw very, very sad of you!

The people have spoken the result is in.

Those who oppose may continue to oppose and that is our right.
Those who support may continue to support and that is their right.

WE live in a democracy not in some play ground for grown ups where the foul mouthed bullies rule over us.

Foul mouthing others is the sad practice of the intellectually challenged.

If there is a coalition JB will be trooping through the lobbies in support of many, many conservative policies. I do not know what a Labour voter who voted LD to keep the "nasty tories" out here in the Deane has got out of their tactical vote.

The 10,000+ Labour supporters in the Deane seem to be the big losers in this election. And JB will continue to live off the tax payers. He will continue to use his expenses to pay for his tawdry propaganda sheets.

Still they do make bin liners for free.
"Narrow viewed idiot!" Back to foul mouthed mode again. HOw very, very sad of you! The people have spoken the result is in. Those who oppose may continue to oppose and that is our right. Those who support may continue to support and that is their right. WE live in a democracy not in some play ground for grown ups where the foul mouthed bullies rule over us. Foul mouthing others is the sad practice of the intellectually challenged. If there is a coalition JB will be trooping through the lobbies in support of many, many conservative policies. I do not know what a Labour voter who voted LD to keep the "nasty tories" out here in the Deane has got out of their tactical vote. The 10,000+ Labour supporters in the Deane seem to be the big losers in this election. And JB will continue to live off the tax payers. He will continue to use his expenses to pay for his tawdry propaganda sheets. Still they do make bin liners for free. verthandi
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9:29am Sat 8 May 10

IQ says...

I see that the Wellington Conservative, verthandi, is twisting the figures in an attempt to support his failed argument.

How exactly were '10,000+ Labour supporters the big losers'? Labour polled just 8,100 - 8,200 votes in the '92, '96 and '01 elections and that slipped to 7,100 in '05.

All the Conservatives managed was to squander piles Ashcroft's tax-free money on a 'big loser'.
I see that the Wellington Conservative, verthandi, is twisting the figures in an attempt to support his failed argument. How exactly were '10,000+ Labour supporters the big losers'? Labour polled just 8,100 - 8,200 votes in the '92, '96 and '01 elections and that slipped to 7,100 in '05. All the Conservatives managed was to squander piles Ashcroft's tax-free money on a 'big loser'. IQ
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10:07am Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

Where did JB get his money from?

Indirect from Northern Foods again???

Open your Books Lib Dems if you are so pure. Then chuck dirt at others

Most conservative money locally comes from money raised locally!

Lab Voters have been increasingly voting tactically over the years The true figure is not known.

Oh, and why do sme Lid Dem constituency parties give data to UKIP.

Not exactly purer than pure stuff from people who sometime sound like moralising stuffed shirts.

Come open the Lib Dem books!!!
Where did JB get his money from? Indirect from Northern Foods again??? Open your Books Lib Dems if you are so pure. Then chuck dirt at others Most conservative money locally comes from money raised locally! Lab Voters have been increasingly voting tactically over the years The true figure is not known. Oh, and why do sme Lid Dem constituency parties give data to UKIP. Not exactly purer than pure stuff from people who sometime sound like moralising stuffed shirts. Come open the Lib Dem books!!! verthandi
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10:07am Sat 8 May 10

Outraged of Oake says...

Failed in Cornwall. Failed in Taunton Deane. Bye bye Mark Formosa.
Failed in Cornwall. Failed in Taunton Deane. Bye bye Mark Formosa. Outraged of Oake
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10:28am Sat 8 May 10

somered says...

It is not very often that I agree with a Tory but verthandi is right, as Labour supporter who "lent" their vote to the Lib Dems to stop a Tory government I am appalled at the haste that Clegg is trying to get into bed with Lord Snooty, I may just as well voted for the Tories as I am going to end up with an unprincipiled coalition at least with Formosa you would have known what your MP stood for! It looks as if the Lib Dems will sacrifice all their principles for just a whiff of power, the prostitutes of politics, never again will they have my vote!
It is not very often that I agree with a Tory but verthandi is right, as Labour supporter who "lent" their vote to the Lib Dems to stop a Tory government I am appalled at the haste that Clegg is trying to get into bed with Lord Snooty, I may just as well voted for the Tories as I am going to end up with an unprincipiled coalition at least with Formosa you would have known what your MP stood for! It looks as if the Lib Dems will sacrifice all their principles for just a whiff of power, the prostitutes of politics, never again will they have my vote! somered
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10:48am Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

With Outraged I know it it is personal and that is okay. It is not a bad thing to be a man of feeling.

As for Labour voters, half of my family were good Labour people and although I bat for a different team I have always had respect for principled socialists.

I have always admired Clement Attlee and feel he was a great war time deputy prime minister. Yet Churchill was a great leader but Attlee was a great organser.

The Lib Dems do not have these qualities. They are unprincipled manipulators.

They keep on about issues to take attention away from their own antics.

Take for example funding. They keep on about Ashcroft. Locally Conservatives raise most of their funds locally and Ashcroft money goes more on nationally run campaigns.

But where does Jeremy Browne get his money from?

Let him declare his sources. First there is "G8" let him explain that. Then there are dubious business sources let him explain that.

Let the Lib Dem belly achers open their own books before they belly ach about others.

Somerred - I respect you.
With Outraged I know it it is personal and that is okay. It is not a bad thing to be a man of feeling. As for Labour voters, half of my family were good Labour people and although I bat for a different team I have always had respect for principled socialists. I have always admired Clement Attlee and feel he was a great war time deputy prime minister. Yet Churchill was a great leader but Attlee was a great organser. The Lib Dems do not have these qualities. They are unprincipled manipulators. They keep on about issues to take attention away from their own antics. Take for example funding. They keep on about Ashcroft. Locally Conservatives raise most of their funds locally and Ashcroft money goes more on nationally run campaigns. But where does Jeremy Browne get his money from? Let him declare his sources. First there is "G8" let him explain that. Then there are dubious business sources let him explain that. Let the Lib Dem belly achers open their own books before they belly ach about others. Somerred - I respect you. verthandi
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11:12am Sat 8 May 10

Taunton_chap says...

Narrow viewed idiot is not foul mouthed. I did use any offensive terminology. I haven't to resorted to swearing like some ignorant fool.

What blue blooded land do you come?I know Tory supporterd normally r a self centred bunch but you do push the status quo.


With regard to the speed at which clegg started to look to the cameron it's alarmed me at first but if you step back and look outside the 3 party box. European economy is very unstable and the uk being hung parliment is making times for us and other europeans look very shaky. In the short to medium term clegg working with cameron to form a stable goverment could be the best solution for uk and europe in the short term. We can get another gerneral election off the.ground in the next 12 months.

Actually when u star to think about I think clegg may have done a clever and unselfish thing.
Narrow viewed idiot is not foul mouthed. I did use any offensive terminology. I haven't to resorted to swearing like some ignorant fool. What blue blooded land do you come?I know Tory supporterd normally r a self centred bunch but you do push the status quo. With regard to the speed at which clegg started to look to the cameron it's alarmed me at first but if you step back and look outside the 3 party box. European economy is very unstable and the uk being hung parliment is making times for us and other europeans look very shaky. In the short to medium term clegg working with cameron to form a stable goverment could be the best solution for uk and europe in the short term. We can get another gerneral election off the.ground in the next 12 months. Actually when u star to think about I think clegg may have done a clever and unselfish thing. Taunton_chap
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11:50am Sat 8 May 10

somered says...

To Taunton_chap, does this mean that Clegg and his party will now support the savage cuts proposed by the tories during the election? If so this is quite a different tale he told us during the election campaign. When I was canvasssed by the Lib Dems they said that a vote for them would help to stop a Tory government being elected, no mention of jumping into bed with the Bullingdon Club! It strikes me that they have no principles and would say anything to get your vote. If your politics are left of centre and you live in Taunton Deane you have now become disenfranchised thanks to the disgraceful Lib/Con alliance, I for one will not be conned by them again.
To Taunton_chap, does this mean that Clegg and his party will now support the savage cuts proposed by the tories during the election? If so this is quite a different tale he told us during the election campaign. When I was canvasssed by the Lib Dems they said that a vote for them would help to stop a Tory government being elected, no mention of jumping into bed with the Bullingdon Club! It strikes me that they have no principles and would say anything to get your vote. If your politics are left of centre and you live in Taunton Deane you have now become disenfranchised thanks to the disgraceful Lib/Con alliance, I for one will not be conned by them again. somered
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12:45pm Sat 8 May 10

Taunton_chap says...

I don't think for a minute clegg will sit by and let the Tories do as they please there will be a balance. They got most of the vote what u want clegg to do sit on the fence. The Tories got the most seats they have the most right to rule regardless how hard they rape this country. Clegg has done damage limitation to Europe and britains economy he will do his best to hold the Tories back while they bring in pr and then call another general election and we will hopefully get a fairer outcome with all who wanted to vote, voting.

Clegg hasn't conned u the tories got fear campaign overdrive at the lat minute people panicted because they didn't want brown again and blindly voted Tory, u and I voted for clegg and we got a hung parliment which is bad for us and Europe the economy could plunge soon if we don't get a goverment. Under the current system out if fairness clegg had backed the party with most vote hoping do damage limitation. Hopefully cameron is the **** cat I think he is! Clegg is
brighter than him!
I don't think for a minute clegg will sit by and let the Tories do as they please there will be a balance. They got most of the vote what u want clegg to do sit on the fence. The Tories got the most seats they have the most right to rule regardless how hard they rape this country. Clegg has done damage limitation to Europe and britains economy he will do his best to hold the Tories back while they bring in pr and then call another general election and we will hopefully get a fairer outcome with all who wanted to vote, voting. Clegg hasn't conned u the tories got fear campaign overdrive at the lat minute people panicted because they didn't want brown again and blindly voted Tory, u and I voted for clegg and we got a hung parliment which is bad for us and Europe the economy could plunge soon if we don't get a goverment. Under the current system out if fairness clegg had backed the party with most vote hoping do damage limitation. Hopefully cameron is the **** cat I think he is! Clegg is brighter than him! Taunton_chap
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1:12pm Sat 8 May 10

Delta Ed says...

Bewarned if the libs get into bed with Labour Taunton will chuck you out at the next election however good you are as a constituency MP and the seat will stay Tory for 20 years!
Bewarned if the libs get into bed with Labour Taunton will chuck you out at the next election however good you are as a constituency MP and the seat will stay Tory for 20 years! Delta Ed
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1:22pm Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

I have no blue blood having quite working class origins and having been a branch chairman of a trade union for several years and I am no union basher. Unions are an essential shield for working people without them there would have been industrial serfdom.
Conservatives are not all stag hunting upper class twits. We are a varied and variable bunch. We are individualists after all.
I know stereotypes can be useful short hand but only where they do not deceive,
My views are diametrically opposed to some here but I do identify between a differing philosophy and abuse.
For myself I see no alternative for Cameron but to offer a working arrangement to secure stable economic policies. For me economic policy must come first.
As a Clinton aid once said "It's the economy stupid".
As a conservative I feel we must needs take a long spoon if we are to dine with the Lib Dems. To us they are in many ways an anathema.
For me personally I have little regard for our MP as he is light weight and too upper crust for my liking
I have no blue blood having quite working class origins and having been a branch chairman of a trade union for several years and I am no union basher. Unions are an essential shield for working people without them there would have been industrial serfdom. Conservatives are not all stag hunting upper class twits. We are a varied and variable bunch. We are individualists after all. I know stereotypes can be useful short hand but only where they do not deceive, My views are diametrically opposed to some here but I do identify between a differing philosophy and abuse. For myself I see no alternative for Cameron but to offer a working arrangement to secure stable economic policies. For me economic policy must come first. As a Clinton aid once said "It's the economy stupid". As a conservative I feel we must needs take a long spoon if we are to dine with the Lib Dems. To us they are in many ways an anathema. For me personally I have little regard for our MP as he is light weight and too upper crust for my liking verthandi
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1:24pm Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

I am surprised Milkman Dave has made his return. Usual self promoting stuff I suppose
I am surprised Milkman Dave has made his return. Usual self promoting stuff I suppose verthandi
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1:24pm Sat 8 May 10

somered says...

Taunton_chap, I take your point but if you think Cameron is going to give you pr any time soon then dream on!If pr were brought in the likelhood is that there would never be another tory government (fine by me!). Camerons' idea of political reform is to reduce the number of MPs by 10% and you can bet your bottom dollar that the ones removed will be either liberal or labour seats. Agreed the tories are the biggest party and they should form a minority government and Brown should resign as he clearly has no mandate, but I cannot see any thing in common between the Lib Dems and the Tories, (Europe, immigration to name just a couple of vast differences), to this end I just find it bizarre that Clegg seems so keen to be their friend! During the campaign Clegg took the moral high ground insisting he would not talk to Brown if Labour came second (paving the way for a lib/con coalition perhaps?) but his morality does not extend to sticking to his policies and perhaps worst of all he sees nothing wrong in being the smallest popular party with the smallest share of the vote trying to dictate the political agenda.
Taunton_chap, I take your point but if you think Cameron is going to give you pr any time soon then dream on!If pr were brought in the likelhood is that there would never be another tory government (fine by me!). Camerons' idea of political reform is to reduce the number of MPs by 10% and you can bet your bottom dollar that the ones removed will be either liberal or labour seats. Agreed the tories are the biggest party and they should form a minority government and Brown should resign as he clearly has no mandate, but I cannot see any thing in common between the Lib Dems and the Tories, (Europe, immigration to name just a couple of vast differences), to this end I just find it bizarre that Clegg seems so keen to be their friend! During the campaign Clegg took the moral high ground insisting he would not talk to Brown if Labour came second (paving the way for a lib/con coalition perhaps?) but his morality does not extend to sticking to his policies and perhaps worst of all he sees nothing wrong in being the smallest popular party with the smallest share of the vote trying to dictate the political agenda. somered
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2:06pm Sat 8 May 10

the-doctor46 says...

Taunton_chap wrote:
Here we go he buys a couple of bits from john lewis and all of sudden his tauntons jacqui smith. Not relflected by the larger majority than last time. Whilst I don't agree with his slightly lavish spending, he is a saint when compared to the tory mp's or most of browns cronies! He's not perfect but his far from a major player in the expenses scandle so pipe down for christs sake. Bet u voted Tory and they could tax u to death but heaven forbid try spend 1700 quid on a bed! Narrow viewed idiot!
Narrow viewed idiot? I was thinking that MP's expenses was a broad problem. I actually voted labour, because Cameron is a complete tool, and well the lib dems aren't really ever going to get into number 10. I expect now after all the heated debating and slander that tories and lib dems will become best friends, and the tories who you hate will get into power, what a joke that would be? This country would benefit from a dictator! We're going down the pan with any of the parties in charge.
[quote][p][bold]Taunton_chap[/bold] wrote: Here we go he buys a couple of bits from john lewis and all of sudden his tauntons jacqui smith. Not relflected by the larger majority than last time. Whilst I don't agree with his slightly lavish spending, he is a saint when compared to the tory mp's or most of browns cronies! He's not perfect but his far from a major player in the expenses scandle so pipe down for christs sake. Bet u voted Tory and they could tax u to death but heaven forbid try spend 1700 quid on a bed! Narrow viewed idiot![/p][/quote]Narrow viewed idiot? I was thinking that MP's expenses was a broad problem. I actually voted labour, because Cameron is a complete tool, and well the lib dems aren't really ever going to get into number 10. I expect now after all the heated debating and slander that tories and lib dems will become best friends, and the tories who you hate will get into power, what a joke that would be? This country would benefit from a dictator! We're going down the pan with any of the parties in charge. the-doctor46
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2:19pm Sat 8 May 10

MilkmanDave says...

Trevor we all know that this must be a difficult time for you and John.

Actually Trevor I enjoyed our conversation at the polling station in Rockwell on Thursday morning. It confirmed many of the impressions I had formed about you via your internet postings. I have told you many times that I am not who you think that I might be. But keep it up, we are all sure that you will. Given up on signing your posts though I see.

You are rich pointing fingers about funding however. Jeremy has always had a fighting fund that anyone can contribute to. I have given a tenner a month for several years and it is possible to give up to a hundred a month if you are wealthy enough. It is local, all donations of over £200 a year are published as is required and It all seems quite democratic and healthy to me. No donations from Non Dom billionaires. Anyone is free to make their own decisions and comment of course.
Trevor we all know that this must be a difficult time for you and John. Actually Trevor I enjoyed our conversation at the polling station in Rockwell on Thursday morning. It confirmed many of the impressions I had formed about you via your internet postings. I have told you many times that I am not who you think that I might be. But keep it up, we are all sure that you will. Given up on signing your posts though I see. You are rich pointing fingers about funding however. Jeremy has always had a fighting fund that anyone can contribute to. I have given a tenner a month for several years and it is possible to give up to a hundred a month if you are wealthy enough. It is local, all donations of over £200 a year are published as is required and It all seems quite democratic and healthy to me. No donations from Non Dom billionaires. Anyone is free to make their own decisions and comment of course. MilkmanDave
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4:54pm Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

Oh, you are going to open the book then.
When and where?

Trevor Morgan
Oh, you are going to open the book then. When and where? Trevor Morgan verthandi
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5:01pm Sat 8 May 10

verthandi says...

And the G8 money from bid to Hebden Bridge, how much of that lolly did he get?

Does Richard still work there

Trevor Morgan
And the G8 money from bid to Hebden Bridge, how much of that lolly did he get? Does Richard still work there Trevor Morgan verthandi
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8:36pm Sat 8 May 10

MilkmanDave says...

Trevor, you are a crazy conspiracy theorist, I guess that may be the only charm that you have. All donations over £200 are registered and published by law as you well know. But you knock yourself out trying to find a reason why you lost other than the fact that less people wanted to vote for your guy.
Trevor, you are a crazy conspiracy theorist, I guess that may be the only charm that you have. All donations over £200 are registered and published by law as you well know. But you knock yourself out trying to find a reason why you lost other than the fact that less people wanted to vote for your guy. MilkmanDave
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5:58am Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Milkman,
More name calling means dialogue is not possible. This now ends.

On a more interesting note for normal readers:-
When Keir Hardy won the first seat in Parliament for the Independent Labour Party a new era started in our country and we saw the rise of the Labour Party. That new force has now worked its way through to maturity. In this election we have seen another new force arrive on the political scene.
The victory of the Greens in Brighton Pavilion is as significant as Keir Hardy's was over a century ago.
I find their environment based politics to have a clear guiding philosophy and as such to have as much potential as the old Independent Labour Party.
The Lib Dems function as an alternative to Labour and the Tories but do not have any core beliefs that are reflected in any way in their practices. The Greens on the other hand do have core beliefs. They may well be destined to grow.
I wonder where they will get their most vote from?
Have a nice time. While it lasts

Trevor Morgan
Milkman, More name calling means dialogue is not possible. This now ends. On a more interesting note for normal readers:- When Keir Hardy won the first seat in Parliament for the Independent Labour Party a new era started in our country and we saw the rise of the Labour Party. That new force has now worked its way through to maturity. In this election we have seen another new force arrive on the political scene. The victory of the Greens in Brighton Pavilion is as significant as Keir Hardy's was over a century ago. I find their environment based politics to have a clear guiding philosophy and as such to have as much potential as the old Independent Labour Party. The Lib Dems function as an alternative to Labour and the Tories but do not have any core beliefs that are reflected in any way in their practices. The Greens on the other hand do have core beliefs. They may well be destined to grow. I wonder where they will get their most vote from? Have a nice time. While it lasts Trevor Morgan verthandi
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6:42am Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Now for the shadowy stuff.
The Lib Dems have an opaque funding source called G8. The group of 8
Each Constituency party bids for the funding from this unknown source.
This money comes from who knows where but if the Lib Dems were squeaky clean they would open the books. However any requests for them to come clean only result in name calling attacks "Conspiracy theorist" or "cocaine addict" or "bully" or what have you.
What they seem unable to do is to be honest totally honest about their funding sources.
They engage in shame faced criticisms of others whilst they themselves have some seedy goings on behind the scenes where they get a goodly share of their finances.
So what about Shareholders in Northern Foods for example giving money and not saying that their cash came from company shareholdings.
Not all declared personal contributions may be quite as they seem.
At core their funding seems to be secretive and to be tawdry. It is a bit like them really.
Now for the shadowy stuff. The Lib Dems have an opaque funding source called G8. The group of 8 Each Constituency party bids for the funding from this unknown source. This money comes from who knows where but if the Lib Dems were squeaky clean they would open the books. However any requests for them to come clean only result in name calling attacks "Conspiracy theorist" or "cocaine addict" or "bully" or what have you. What they seem unable to do is to be honest totally honest about their funding sources. They engage in shame faced criticisms of others whilst they themselves have some seedy goings on behind the scenes where they get a goodly share of their finances. So what about Shareholders in Northern Foods for example giving money and not saying that their cash came from company shareholdings. Not all declared personal contributions may be quite as they seem. At core their funding seems to be secretive and to be tawdry. It is a bit like them really. verthandi
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10:50am Sun 9 May 10

IQ says...

I always find it off putting when member of any political party starts trying to tell people what other parties think, say or do.

verthandi, I suspect that it is very unlikely that you actually know anything of value about the funding of the Liberal Democrats. I'm sure that you are hoping that your smoke screen will avoid the well reported FACT that the Conservatives were funded by a 'non-dom' who avoids paying UK tax though.

Instead of making feeble excuses about tactical voting - you should be asking yourselves how Cameron failed to secure a national majority with all that money and time to prepare for the election against the hugely unpopular incumbents rather than try to smear the winner in our local constituency.

But then you are a Conservative and you are managing beautifully to reinforce the very reason why they became known as the 'nasty party'.
I always find it off putting when member of any political party starts trying to tell people what other parties think, say or do. verthandi, I suspect that it is very unlikely that you actually know anything of value about the funding of the Liberal Democrats. I'm sure that you are hoping that your smoke screen will avoid the well reported FACT that the Conservatives were funded by a 'non-dom' who avoids paying UK tax though. Instead of making feeble excuses about tactical voting - you should be asking yourselves how Cameron failed to secure a national majority with all that money and time to prepare for the election against the hugely unpopular incumbents rather than try to smear the winner in our local constituency. But then you are a Conservative and you are managing beautifully to reinforce the very reason why they became known as the 'nasty party'. IQ
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10:55am Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

not an answer just name calling

Where does the LD money come from.


Trevor Morgan
not an answer just name calling Where does the LD money come from. Trevor Morgan verthandi
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11:06am Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Look here for starters:

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2006/
apr/22/uk.partyfundi
ng

A book full might follow. Just attaching the drip feed now!

Poison has been drip fed about the conservatives.

It is time now for truths about the Lib Dems to be drip fed
So name call to your hearts content

I acknowledge that L Browne got more votes and won.

The electorate have spoken.

It is the duty of oppositions to oppose live with it.


Trevor Morgan
Look here for starters: http://www.guardian. co.uk/politics/2006/ apr/22/uk.partyfundi ng A book full might follow. Just attaching the drip feed now! Poison has been drip fed about the conservatives. It is time now for truths about the Lib Dems to be drip fed So name call to your hearts content I acknowledge that L Browne got more votes and won. The electorate have spoken. It is the duty of oppositions to oppose live with it. Trevor Morgan verthandi
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11:08am Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

And this:

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Michael_Bro
wn_(Liberal_Democrat
)

Trevor Morgan

More to follow, to follow, to follow
And this: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Michael_Bro wn_(Liberal_Democrat ) Trevor Morgan More to follow, to follow, to follow verthandi
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2:24pm Sun 9 May 10

IQ says...

verthandi you are only making your self look like an out-dated Tory throwback.

Cameron would like to move on with his 'big, open and comprehensive offer' by asking for Liberal Democrat help build a 'strong and stable government'.

'Co-operation' and 'progressive' is not something that the remnants of the nasty party can even comprehend, is it?
verthandi you are only making your self look like an out-dated Tory throwback. Cameron would like to move on with his 'big, open and comprehensive offer' by asking for Liberal Democrat help build a 'strong and stable government'. 'Co-operation' and 'progressive' is not something that the remnants of the nasty party can even comprehend, is it? IQ
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3:51pm Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Name calling again but no answers for you have none you dare speak

Open the books prove you are squeaky clean Lib Dems.
Taking money from crooks seems serious to me!
Name calling again but no answers for you have none you dare speak Open the books prove you are squeaky clean Lib Dems. Taking money from crooks seems serious to me! verthandi
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4:10pm Sun 9 May 10

celticclaire says...

Verthandi/Trevor,

You are doing yourself and the party that you have been elected to represent locally no favours here.

I would suggest some dignity in defeat, as Jeremy showed in his acceptance speech. He was gracious not only in praise of the other candidates,especiall
y Mark, but also spent time congratulating and expressing respect for all of the activists and their dedication. Including the Tories. You should take a look at it or ask some of your colleagues.

This is part of the reason why he is so respected.
Verthandi/Trevor, You are doing yourself and the party that you have been elected to represent locally no favours here. I would suggest some dignity in defeat, as Jeremy showed in his acceptance speech. He was gracious not only in praise of the other candidates,especiall y Mark, but also spent time congratulating and expressing respect for all of the activists and their dedication. Including the Tories. You should take a look at it or ask some of your colleagues. This is part of the reason why he is so respected. celticclaire
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4:54pm Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

And still no answers

I am so glad I am not a Labour supporter locally. I really do feel for them. They voted not to get a Tory government and got conned. At least they will never be conned by the Tories at an election.

Check the links I supplied. Tawdry stuff. But we never mentioned it in the election. Well in the last election. The rules are changed now.

Go call me more names. Beat me up in the street. Some of you want to.
And still no answers I am so glad I am not a Labour supporter locally. I really do feel for them. They voted not to get a Tory government and got conned. At least they will never be conned by the Tories at an election. Check the links I supplied. Tawdry stuff. But we never mentioned it in the election. Well in the last election. The rules are changed now. Go call me more names. Beat me up in the street. Some of you want to. verthandi
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5:21pm Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Unbending hate

So can you educate pure hate
From out the hearts of folk?
If you dream of a peaceful state
Are dreams a doleful joke?
When fixed upon a single thought
Pure hate will have its sting
For nothing new may then be taught
And that’s the saddest thing

Copyright T Morgan

Dedicated to some contributors here
Unbending hate So can you educate pure hate From out the hearts of folk? If you dream of a peaceful state Are dreams a doleful joke? When fixed upon a single thought Pure hate will have its sting For nothing new may then be taught And that’s the saddest thing Copyright T Morgan Dedicated to some contributors here verthandi
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5:59pm Sun 9 May 10

celticclaire says...

Pure hate! Can you take a step back and look at your posts. Nobody here is venting forth pure hate. People just don't agree with your views.
Your delusions of persecution are nothing short of astonishing. Where do you read anybody ever threatening you personally with any sort of violence.
You are a genuine embarrassment to other Tory posters who have legitimate views to share.

'Boy, boy, crazy boy, get cool boy'
copyright S.Sondheim
Pure hate! Can you take a step back and look at your posts. Nobody here is venting forth pure hate. People just don't agree with your views. Your delusions of persecution are nothing short of astonishing. Where do you read anybody ever threatening you personally with any sort of violence. You are a genuine embarrassment to other Tory posters who have legitimate views to share. 'Boy, boy, crazy boy, get cool boy' copyright S.Sondheim celticclaire
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6:30pm Sun 9 May 10

IQ says...

I read this letter in the Gazette that said "There is another trick politicians use. It is a simple one. Where they know they do something to excess they disguise their acts by loudly accusing their opponent of they very things they do themselves."

I'd agree - but see it was written by a 'Trevor Morgan' so now I'm confused. Are you trying to 'disguise your acts' by 'loudly accusing your opponents of they very things you do yourself', Trev? Or don't politicians do that sort of thing now?

(Link - http://www.somersetc
ountygazette.co.uk/n
ews/postbag/3817483.
Political_ways/)
I read this letter in the Gazette that said "There is another trick politicians use. It is a simple one. Where they know they do something to excess they disguise their acts by loudly accusing their opponent of they very things they do themselves." I'd agree - but see it was written by a 'Trevor Morgan' so now I'm confused. Are you trying to 'disguise your acts' by 'loudly accusing your opponents of they very things you do yourself', Trev? Or don't politicians do that sort of thing now? (Link - http://www.somersetc ountygazette.co.uk/n ews/postbag/3817483. Political_ways/) IQ
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7:29pm Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Somehow I do not think an American called S.Sondheim is writing here.

As for nail the man. (good of you to quote me, my you are spending time on researching me - perhaps you feel like nailing me. That will be hard as I will never stand for election to public office. I am quite unsuited to sitting on committees and I am physically limited)

I have not sought to nail the man here I have repeatedly asked about party finance. However if the answers to finance prove dodgy then "following the finance" might nail some men.

Also I doubt if any of the Lib Dem apologists here have any poetry in their souls or are capable of any original composition. They are more suited to repeatedly quoting the same old guff and name calling.

So are you going to open the books, both sets that is. You know what you spend in a campaign and what you declare to a returning officer. In the past you have been known to boast about such things

None of you have tried the "bigot" tag yet but no doubt if you get frustrated it will arrive.

The voters of Taunton Deane have spoken. That is totally accepted by me.

Government will continue and oppositions will continue. Crowing here can be challenged.

But do open those books.
Somehow I do not think an American called S.Sondheim is writing here. As for nail the man. (good of you to quote me, my you are spending time on researching me - perhaps you feel like nailing me. That will be hard as I will never stand for election to public office. I am quite unsuited to sitting on committees and I am physically limited) I have not sought to nail the man here I have repeatedly asked about party finance. However if the answers to finance prove dodgy then "following the finance" might nail some men. Also I doubt if any of the Lib Dem apologists here have any poetry in their souls or are capable of any original composition. They are more suited to repeatedly quoting the same old guff and name calling. So are you going to open the books, both sets that is. You know what you spend in a campaign and what you declare to a returning officer. In the past you have been known to boast about such things None of you have tried the "bigot" tag yet but no doubt if you get frustrated it will arrive. The voters of Taunton Deane have spoken. That is totally accepted by me. Government will continue and oppositions will continue. Crowing here can be challenged. But do open those books. verthandi
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7:31pm Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

My, I have you going.
My, I have you going. verthandi
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9:24pm Sun 9 May 10

Taunton_chap says...

verthandi, your passion for politics and knowing what is wrong rather than trying to slander the lib dems why don;t you get involved as a councilor.

You seem to have alot to say but no amount of chest puffing on here will make a difference why dont you get involved and try and make the changes you want.
verthandi, your passion for politics and knowing what is wrong rather than trying to slander the lib dems why don;t you get involved as a councilor. You seem to have alot to say but no amount of chest puffing on here will make a difference why dont you get involved and try and make the changes you want. Taunton_chap
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10:30pm Sun 9 May 10

verthandi says...

Physical limitations
Physical limitations verthandi
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10:45pm Sun 9 May 10

IQ says...

Physical limitations like David Blunkett and Anne Begg in the Commons or Jane Campbell , and Jack Ashley in the House of Lords?
Physical limitations like David Blunkett and Anne Begg in the Commons or Jane Campbell , and Jack Ashley in the House of Lords? IQ
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6:52am Mon 10 May 10

verthandi says...

Liberal philosophy I believe permits of, no insists upon, the rights of the individual to decide for themselves what they may choose to do. Providing that is they harm no other.
I like Liberal Philosophy. Locke, Bentham and Mill and all that.
I find they are in many ways a good guide to conduct.
I do therefore find it strange that a political movement purporting to have its root in that philosophy, the Lib Dems, should have such excess internal discipline as to have a whipping system for its Councillors and its MPs.
Even on so small an authority as Wellington Town Council we see their party boss locally signalling how Lib Dem Councillors ought vote.
It seems to me that there is more of the libertarian in the local Labour Party and The Local Conservatives.
As someone from the libertarian wing of modern conservatism I have made a personal choice for now.
If things improve, well, tomorrow is another day...
But thank you for your kind thoughts none the less.
Liberal philosophy I believe permits of, no insists upon, the rights of the individual to decide for themselves what they may choose to do. Providing that is they harm no other. I like Liberal Philosophy. Locke, Bentham and Mill and all that. I find they are in many ways a good guide to conduct. I do therefore find it strange that a political movement purporting to have its root in that philosophy, the Lib Dems, should have such excess internal discipline as to have a whipping system for its Councillors and its MPs. Even on so small an authority as Wellington Town Council we see their party boss locally signalling how Lib Dem Councillors ought vote. It seems to me that there is more of the libertarian in the local Labour Party and The Local Conservatives. As someone from the libertarian wing of modern conservatism I have made a personal choice for now. If things improve, well, tomorrow is another day... But thank you for your kind thoughts none the less. verthandi
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