Lack of cash puts Taunton town centre Christmas lights in the dark (From Somerset County Gazette)
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Lack of cash puts Taunton town centre Christmas lights in the dark
8:27am Thursday 4th October 2012 in Taunton
By Phil Hill
TRADITIONAL lights will not hang over Taunton town centre this Christmas because of a lack of cash.
The popular lights were previously funded by a scheme known as the BID, which has since ended.
Opposition councillors have said the lack of lights would be a “PR disaster”.
Graham Love, Taunton town centre manager, said: “We’ll have the tree at the Market House and six trees in Fore Street with lights – that’s the extent of it.”
Shoppers could boycott Taunton over a decision to put up hardly any Christmas lights, it has been claimed.
The blackout contrasts with Wellington where £10,000 is being spent on lights.
Taunton’s town centre manager said money had dried up after traders ditched a scheme funding a kitty to improve trade.
Cllr Jefferson Horsley, LibDem leader on Taunton Deane Council, said: “This will be a PR disaster for Taunton.
“This failure of the Conservative group to support traders will likely lead to more shoppers vacating for more cheerful towns.
“I call on the Tory leader to stop playing Scrooge – we need illuminations, not gloom, this Christmas.”
Mark Raisey, merchandise director at Hatchers department store, claimed the council had abdicated its responsibility.
He said: “Taunton Deane and Taunton Town Centre Company have missed a brilliant opportunity to put on a great display of Christmas lights.”
He accused them of “sour grapes” after businesses decided not to renew the Business Improvement District scheme under which firms paid a levy to boost the town.
Andy Sharman, of Somerset West Businesses Against Crime, said: “It’s disappointing. Christmas is vital and if not successful it’ll strain traders.”
Cllr Andrew Govier (Labour) said: “We have really good lights in Wellington thanks to the town council – it’s a shame Taunton can’t do something similar.”
Taunton town centre manager Graham Love said there was no money for lights after the demise of the BID scheme.
He said: “There’ll be a limited scheme as there’s no funding.”
Taunton Town Centre Company is staging a street fair on Sunday, November 18.
Council leader Cllr John Williams (Conservative) said other initiatives included the town centre company offering businesses trees, the orchard centre putting up lights and free parking after 3pm on Saturdays, possibly being repeated.
- A WORKING group aimed at finding a solution to the issue was being formed as the County Gazette went to press.
Councillor Kelly Durdan appealed for people or businesses with ideas to contact her at cllr.k.durdan@googlemail.com
Comments(44)
tauntontone
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9:28am Thu 4 Oct 12
Seriously though any idea what our council tax actually gets spent on?
Lets all move to Bridgwater!
Siker72
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9:54am Thu 4 Oct 12
Taunton John
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10:09am Thu 4 Oct 12
*fairy*
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10:23am Thu 4 Oct 12
mrjonesykid
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10:24am Thu 4 Oct 12
Maurice Butcher
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10:48am Thu 4 Oct 12
If we have no lights I will boycott the town and go to Exeter. No money coming to the town, join me in a boycott. The lights we hadlast yer wasn't the best but better than none?
Chunkysboy
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10:59am Thu 4 Oct 12
souwesterly
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12:14pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Oh - they are already!
Instead of asking for some thing to be done, which the council will never do, we should just make them a laughing stock.
Spread the word to show how useless they are.
Think up and put online, jokes and comic stories.
And boycott the turning-on ceremony while you're at it.
Make the councillors feel so small they'll be ashamed to show their faces in public. (Not that anyone in their right mind would really want to see any of them.....)
It's a total waste of time haranguing the council - they're blind and deaf to the public.
millymoo
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12:21pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Surely we should be leading by example not being shown up by the more dedicated neighbouring towns?
We are amidst a double dip recession, YES. However the government have been doing nothing but going on about how public spending is down, what schemes they are putting in place to address the fact that consumers have less cash to buy things, that Christmas trade will in no doubt suffer. So what does the seemingly silly man with no commercial awareness decide to do? Make the town so dull and boring that people feel that Christmas may as well be cancelled and therefore will not feel inspired to spend their cash in the shops and if they do, they will probably take a day trip to somewhere that has christmas festivities going on so they can enjoy the christmas experience and festive spirit.
When the country is as down and depressed as it is, Christmas becomes as important as ever if not more so and by doing this, what have we got to look forward to in this town????
SORT IT OUT!!
Gem64
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1:17pm Thu 4 Oct 12
A disgrace and shame on you...
Gem64
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1:17pm Thu 4 Oct 12
A disgrace and shame on you...
appleandparrot
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1:26pm Thu 4 Oct 12
.... In Castle Green we may have an answer. With the new open space now finished, between the Apple N Parrot Taunton, The Drawing Room, and The Castle Green Inn
and Cafe Mambo Taunton, we decide Christmas should go ahead and have decided to pay for some trees for the space ourselves and will be inviting local primary schools to come and decorate them for the 12 days of christmas.......... Anybody else like to get on board?
Bigkez
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2:29pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Growing up as a kid going to town shopping at Christmas with my parents was what made Christmas special.
I can only feel for the kids that won't get to feel this warm exciting feeling around Christmas time,
And for what reason do we not have lights? Do we not pay taxes? Do businesses not pay rates? Ohh yea we do don't we!
I guess someone somewhere will have a nice new car instead of us having lights well done! Plank.
Somerset_lad
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2:44pm Thu 4 Oct 12
Henrietta Marie
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9:20pm Thu 4 Oct 12
This is what springs to mind over this seemingly mindless reasoning behind the cuts to our Christmas lights.
When I was a child Christmas was a magical place to be and to look in awe at the festivites. Strangly, I did believe in Santa Clause. Now all I believe in is Santa Scrooge.
What a sad and gloomy time for the residents and visitors of Taunton all because of the lost BID for Taunton. And was it the residents fault? No! It was the Town Centre Company's fault. How could the bid have been messed up so badly. We gave the Company £50K this year to get on with marketing us to attract new businesses, but they put it on hold because of the Olympic Torch Relay. Fine. but what have they done since? Diddy squat. So the money they did not spend on marketing they can use on the Christmas lights. And why not? We need shoppers to come here and enjoy the retail experience that I used to enjoy and feel Chritsmassy just like when I was a child and all other old Tauntonians felt.
So come on you skinflint Tories give us back that Christmas feeling of excitement and kick the Town Centre Manager into touch to GET OUR LIGHTS BACK!!
Bedause I dread to think what Christmas Future may bring.
andy-sharman
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9:36am Fri 5 Oct 12
As there is no BID this year, this represents a saving of £24,100 which the council could use for light provision.
The Town Centre Company, as a not-for-profit, is sitting on accounts which could be added to the pot. This would provide a decent light provision and would support the local economy during these difficult trading periods.
While I share the upset of fellow commentors on this thread, I would ask that we do not turn our backs on Taunton traders. The fault of the lack of lights is not the traders, so please do not punish for the inaction of others.
Please contact your local councillor to get behind this proposal and give Taunton the Christmas it deserves and so badly needs.
Robert Miles
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2:35pm Fri 5 Oct 12
andy-sharman
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4:32pm Fri 5 Oct 12
I, and a great deal of Tauntonians (businesses and the community), were under the impression the light provision was through TDBC, the BID providing additional and the switch-on event. It transpires now that this was not the case but I do hope that TDBC are able to solve the issue swiftly.
woodlandscastle
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6:36pm Fri 5 Oct 12
panicked.com
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8:43pm Fri 5 Oct 12
jimbobjoe89
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9:10pm Fri 5 Oct 12
FreeSpeech?
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11:56pm Fri 5 Oct 12
Can anyone explain who bought the lights that have been used for the last couple of years?
Where are they now?
I suspect hanging from the ceiling in the DLO yard by the viaduct, if so they must be owned by us the tax payer and as such we will only need to pay for them to be put.up and taken down, but may i suggest an outside contractor is chosen by the shop keepers and not TDBC as they charge exuberant fees for the smallest of jobs ie £90 to clear guttering that takes 10mins to perform.
FreeSpeech?
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12:00am Sat 6 Oct 12
Somerset_BTGOG
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10:44am Sat 6 Oct 12
Problem solved.
In the words of Lord Sugar "Graham you're fired"
ptis57
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12:53pm Sat 6 Oct 12
ptis57
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1:11pm Sat 6 Oct 12
GrumpyNewsReader
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2:28pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Siker72
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7:50am Sun 7 Oct 12
Schoolboy Q
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10:27am Sun 7 Oct 12
Robert Miles
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11:20am Sun 7 Oct 12
Schoolboy Q
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2:11pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Keefy1
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2:23pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Robert Miles
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2:50pm Sun 7 Oct 12
FreeSpeech?
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2:50pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Schoolboy Q wrote:Could you please tell us who owns the lights that have been used in Taunton up until last Christmas.
For once Robert, you are correct. I am very touchy when it comes to this subject. Also, annoyed, constantly disappointed, and in disbelief when it comes to the Town Centre Company. I think I mentioned a while back that I think BID is a good thing for Taunton. However I believe that it is time for Graham Love to step down. Acknowledge the areas which need improving and act, and also celebrate the successes of Love and his team. But step down. And do what you said, "decisions are made in the best interest ot the town." Remember earlier when I said you're out of touch? Well I think you still are a little bit since that post. As you know, BID isn't just about Xmas lights - if it was, believe you me, I'd be acting a tad more than "touchy." And I've recently discovered I was misinformed regarding the ownership of Taunton's Xmas Lights - I honestly thought the lights were paid for by TDBC, but I don't recall attacking TDBC? Where you're from Robert, sounds like a really nice place. And you seem like a really nice man. Because here in Taunton, what a large population believe, is ignored. A "no vote" for BID is STILL being ignored. And blamed on the mischievous Andy Sharman, his Security thing and large national retailers who's vote is done by someone in Head Office. Still. Out. Of. Touch. My comments are far from snide, they're direct "knock on your front door" comments. Snide would be telling Andy Sharman to keep a low profile. (But with an exclamation mark, so you know it's just for jokes!!) And you ask anybody who knows anybody about Schoolboy Q from Taunton, I'm known.
Robert Miles
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3:17pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Schoolboy Q
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4:01pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Robert Miles
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4:47pm Sun 7 Oct 12
St. Austell
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4:50pm Sun 7 Oct 12
because money has been spent on other projects such as the green turf on Castle
Green.
I suspect that not many of those who live in Taunton are at all concerned. Moreover if
asked in an opinion poll whether those enfranchised in Taunton would prefer money
spent on:
1. A free Christmas drink for them in a pub in "Cider City".
2. The changes to Castle Green.
3. Christmas lights in Taunton.
the majority would vote for the free drink.
What councillors and such as Robert Miles either do not realise or are unwilling to
admit is that now Taunton is little better than a country village. It has little to offer
compared with other nearby cities and towns with many of its shops offering either
inferior produce or over priced product: here I should add that a purchase, delivery
and installation of a new television set from a store in Exeter using no more than the
internet and telephone resulted in a saving of over a hundred pounds compared with
the purchase of an identical product from either a High Street or Out of Town Store in
Taunton. In addition few if any would wish to visit Taunton for shopping since car
parking is expensive and there is a limited choice of accommodation in the town centre
where I understand every excuse was used to prevent the old run down County Hotel
being modernised and turned into a successful town centre hotel and venue by a North
Devon consortium.
Alas the present Taunton is past its sell by date providing little for the discriminating
shopper who can easily visit Barnstaple - with Christmas lights -, Bristol, Exeter or
London for seasonal shopping. The town and its councillors have not moved forward
and still appear to support its image of being "Cider City": pity the "Natch" - Tone
Vale Tea - isn't what it used to be though - with spectacles such as Ted Manley and
Stebbings versus Ridgeway conflicts to entertain those falling out of The Plough or
The Crown and Sceptre on their way to extramaritals in Canal Road.
tom norman
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7:39pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Mr Billy O'naire
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2:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Taunton John wrote:Letter to the editor:
What about Tesco chipping in? They have FIVE stores in town!!!!
I did not buy this newspaper so that it could provide some kind of platform for every dirty loonie leftie communist socialist pinko bolshevik tree-hugging hippie and their subversive ideas and comments.
I bought it so that it would reflect the honest and decent views and values of my multi-billionaire friends and myself..that's why we all live in a democracy...it's the democratic right of all multi-billionaires to buy and own a few hundered newspapers, so if you want to spout your lonnie leftie nonsense about Tesco 'chipping in' for your squalid little Christmas festivities, go and buy your own newspaper!
And any way I also own a large part of Tesco and I'm not paying for your pathetic little light show.....every little helps.......me that is.......Mwoooahahah
ahahhahah!
Mr Billy O'naire
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2:32pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Taunton John wrote:Letter to the editor:
What about Tesco chipping in? They have FIVE stores in town!!!!
I did not buy this newspaper so that it could provide some kind of platform for every dirty loonie leftie communist socialist pinko bolshevik tree-hugging hippie and their subversive ideas and comments.
I bought it so that it would reflect the honest and decent views and values of my multi-billionaire friends and myself..that's why we all live in a democracy...it's the democratic right of all multi-billionaires to buy and own a few hundered newspapers, so if you want to spout your lonnie leftie nonsense about Tesco 'chipping in' for your squalid little Christmas festivities, go and buy your own newspaper!
And any way I also own a large part of Tesco and I'm not paying for your pathetic little light show.....every little helps.......me that is.......Mwoooahahah
ahahhahah!
Mr Billy O'naire
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2:32pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Taunton John wrote:Letter to the editor:
What about Tesco chipping in? They have FIVE stores in town!!!!
I did not buy this newspaper so that it could provide some kind of platform for every dirty loonie leftie communist socialist pinko bolshevik tree-hugging hippie and their subversive ideas and comments.
I bought it so that it would reflect the honest and decent views and values of my multi-billionaire friends and myself..that's why we all live in a democracy...it's the democratic right of all multi-billionaires to buy and own a few hundered newspapers, so if you want to spout your lonnie leftie nonsense about Tesco 'chipping in' for your squalid little Christmas festivities, go and buy your own newspaper!
And any way I also own a large part of Tesco and I'm not paying for your pathetic little light show.....every little helps.......me that is.......Mwoooahahah
ahahhahah!
63taunton
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6:34pm Wed 10 Oct 12
e,etc.
MATT7250 says...
8:53am Thu 4 Oct 12