Parking talks over Musgrove

4:10pm Monday 8th October 2012 in Taunton

Musgrove Park Hospital Musgrove Park Hospital

PEOPLE living near Musgrove Park Hospital, in Taunton, are in talks with council officials over problems caused by staff parking in residential streets.

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Samej1 says...
5:38pm Mon 8 Oct 12

And?

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justinc4300 says...
6:21pm Mon 8 Oct 12

The staff should get free parking and parking for visitors should be cheaper.i moved from the area recently and the hospital that I now have to visit on regular basis has permits and separate car park for staff and it costs £2.50 for a ticket for those that have appointments no matter how long it is and very cheap hourly rates.when my daughter was born and then kept in for 3weeks it cost us a fortune and we had a lot of regular stays over the next year.

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boliston says...
8:37pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Since when did anyone ever own the road outside their home?

It might be annoying but hospital staff, or any other member of the public has a perfect right to park anywhere where on-street parking rules permit.

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jess the cat says...
9:29pm Mon 8 Oct 12

The residents of galmington are fed up with musgrove staff parking. It would be nice to park outside my house when i finish work.
People who work in town have to pay for parking why not musgrove staff?.
Whats wrong with the park and ride?.
Bring on the parking permits..

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LittleOwl says...
9:38pm Mon 8 Oct 12

There are many issues surrounding the parking at Musgrove. Firstly, getting a parking permit is a NIGHTMARE! Live 3 miles away or less? Tough, you cant have one. Walk or bus it. 3 miles is a long way to walk when you have a 12 hour shift ahead of you, not to mention the 3 miles home again. Bus it? Very difficult when the buses dont run early enough to get you to work. And are unreliable and often late. Patients can't allow you to be late. So, the park and ride. Brilliant idea, except they finish running at 7. Ward shifts finish at 7.30. Therefore you cant use park and ride. Even if you walked to the park and ride you would find the gates locked! So this issue is not as simple as it seems... a lot of Musgrove staff simply have nowhere to park! Even if they wanted to use the lovely new multi storey car park they cant! And who on NHS wages could afford the £8 a day to park without a permit. That could be £160 a month!!!! We pay our road tax, we should be able to park on -street as long as we dont block access. After all, if you need our services in the hospital I'm sure you would be glad we managed to get to work on time and park!

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wilko84 says...
9:47pm Mon 8 Oct 12

LittleOwl wrote:
There are many issues surrounding the parking at Musgrove. Firstly, getting a parking permit is a NIGHTMARE! Live 3 miles away or less? Tough, you cant have one. Walk or bus it. 3 miles is a long way to walk when you have a 12 hour shift ahead of you, not to mention the 3 miles home again. Bus it? Very difficult when the buses dont run early enough to get you to work. And are unreliable and often late. Patients can't allow you to be late. So, the park and ride. Brilliant idea, except they finish running at 7. Ward shifts finish at 7.30. Therefore you cant use park and ride. Even if you walked to the park and ride you would find the gates locked! So this issue is not as simple as it seems... a lot of Musgrove staff simply have nowhere to park! Even if they wanted to use the lovely new multi storey car park they cant! And who on NHS wages could afford the £8 a day to park without a permit. That could be £160 a month!!!! We pay our road tax, we should be able to park on -street as long as we dont block access. After all, if you need our services in the hospital I'm sure you would be glad we managed to get to work on time and park!
Hit the nail on the head here little owl!.

"it would be nice to park outside my house when i get home from work". Yes i am sure it would ne nice but not everyone has that luxury. you want to park outside your house to bad then get a house with a drive!

People who pay road tax have the right BY LAW to park wherever they like that doesn't have parking restrictions, i.e, dipped curb, double lines or restricted time single lines.

The world isn't fair...get over it!

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wilko84 says...
9:48pm Mon 8 Oct 12

boliston wrote:
Since when did anyone ever own the road outside their home? It might be annoying but hospital staff, or any other member of the public has a perfect right to park anywhere where on-street parking rules permit.
here here!

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Useacarpark.com says...
12:17am Tue 9 Oct 12

LittleOwl wrote:
There are many issues surrounding the parking at Musgrove. Firstly, getting a parking permit is a NIGHTMARE! Live 3 miles away or less? Tough, you cant have one. Walk or bus it. 3 miles is a long way to walk when you have a 12 hour shift ahead of you, not to mention the 3 miles home again. Bus it? Very difficult when the buses dont run early enough to get you to work. And are unreliable and often late. Patients can't allow you to be late. So, the park and ride. Brilliant idea, except they finish running at 7. Ward shifts finish at 7.30. Therefore you cant use park and ride. Even if you walked to the park and ride you would find the gates locked! So this issue is not as simple as it seems... a lot of Musgrove staff simply have nowhere to park! Even if they wanted to use the lovely new multi storey car park they cant! And who on NHS wages could afford the £8 a day to park without a permit. That could be £160 a month!!!! We pay our road tax, we should be able to park on -street as long as we dont block access. After all, if you need our services in the hospital I'm sure you would be glad we managed to get to work on time and park!
Lets get the violins out for hospital staff.........You aren't a saint just because you work in a hospital, you are a paid member of staff! Everyone who works and drives has issues with transport, parking costs etc. Have some respect for where people live, or they won't respect the property you leave there for 7-10 hours a day, 5 days a week! It wouldn't be so bad if you lot had decent cars, but I'm constantly getting utter garbage parked outside my house for hours on end. I hired a van a while ago, couldn't get it on the drive due to insensitive parking from hospital staff, luckily the car I scraped was softer than the truck I was in. Hopefully Residents permits will be brought in for the whole of galmington

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FreeSpeech? says...
8:00am Tue 9 Oct 12

Sounds to me that your advocating the use of criminal damage to get your own way, & also a little snobbish as you only like nice cars outside your house.

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Useacarpark.com says...
8:33am Tue 9 Oct 12

No, just expect a little respect and consideration for others. We have to live here, that means children playing in an area with increased traffic, for the only reason that hospital staff are too lazy to use public transport, Organise a car share system or pay the parking that everyone else has to. I'm not advocating criminal damage, but Don't expect the locals to embrace the current parking situation. I constantly get two cars parking either side of my driveway and one directly opposite on the other side of the road, when it is like this it becomes virtually impossible to get my car off the drive. If I have to scrape a car because I can't find the owners to move them, then so be it. I have to get to work too.

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FreeSpeech? says...
8:35am Tue 9 Oct 12

Useacarpark.com wrote:
No, just expect a little respect and consideration for others. We have to live here, that means children playing in an area with increased traffic, for the only reason that hospital staff are too lazy to use public transport, Organise a car share system or pay the parking that everyone else has to. I'm not advocating criminal damage, but Don't expect the locals to embrace the current parking situation. I constantly get two cars parking either side of my driveway and one directly opposite on the other side of the road, when it is like this it becomes virtually impossible to get my car off the drive. If I have to scrape a car because I can't find the owners to move them, then so be it. I have to get to work too.
Fair comment!

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*fairy* says...
9:09am Tue 9 Oct 12

Useacarpark.com Even if the hospital staff werent parking outside your house people visiting or going for appointments would! You chose to live near to a big busy hospital, you should of considered parking and traffic issues before moving in! Its a shame this is a faceless & nameless conversation cos id love for the hospital staff to know who you are in case you ever need treatment, Im sure youd get a 5* service from the ones whos cars youd damaged!

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Useacarpark.com says...
10:42am Tue 9 Oct 12

*fairy* wrote:
Useacarpark.com Even if the hospital staff werent parking outside your house people visiting or going for appointments would! You chose to live near to a big busy hospital, you should of considered parking and traffic issues before moving in! Its a shame this is a faceless & nameless conversation cos id love for the hospital staff to know who you are in case you ever need treatment, Im sure youd get a 5* service from the ones whos cars youd damaged!
Well I chose to live here because my wife works in the hospital, as do several close friends and relatives. But it's good to see that you are a true professional and the levels of care you can offer differ between patients at your discretion. The time difference between someone attending an appointment or visiting is vast. I couldn't care less if someone is outside for an hour or two, but when it is from 7am up until 7pm then I'm likely to get annoyed. The bin men now have to collect around here before 7.30am or it's a nightmare for them to get access to all properties. Lets hope there isn't the need for a fire engine to gain swift access to some of the properties, as I'm sure the parking would cause them issues. But I suppose if a family are burnt to a crisp, then it's less work for the hospital staff, so win win for you, free parking and less patients!

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BaldyLocks says...
10:49am Tue 9 Oct 12

I always park in Galmington when I visit the hospital. Saves me a fortune.
Peace.

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S-J-K- says...
11:23am Tue 9 Oct 12

In my opinion parking around Galmington area is not the issue at all and should not distract from the real issues at hand. It is a travesty that the car park is too expensive for staff... it is unforgivable that it costs so much for the vulnerable people who have need of the hospital services. I have heard the justification is so that people do not park there to go in to town, but it is far cheaper to park in the centre and walk to the hospital. Fine for those who are well enough to, but you probably wouldn't need to go to the hospital then would you!

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Useacarpark.com says...
11:32am Tue 9 Oct 12

S-J-K- wrote:
In my opinion parking around Galmington area is not the issue at all and should not distract from the real issues at hand. It is a travesty that the car park is too expensive for staff... it is unforgivable that it costs so much for the vulnerable people who have need of the hospital services. I have heard the justification is so that people do not park there to go in to town, but it is far cheaper to park in the centre and walk to the hospital. Fine for those who are well enough to, but you probably wouldn't need to go to the hospital then would you!
We Live in a society of free hand outs and benefits, so if you don't have family and friends to help attend hospital appointments/visitin
g, then there are several options, such as buses, taxis and I'm sure that I've seen transport provided by the hospital for patients. If you can drive into the hospital - A. You aren't that ill. B. you can probably afford public transport and finally C. If you can walk from Galmington, then you could park and ride, bus it etc.

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swjoduk says...
12:35pm Tue 9 Oct 12

I too park on residential streets around Musgrove where parking restrictions allow. My mother is going to be in Musgrove for months recovering from an operation to remove a brain tumour and on top of that my partner recently gave birth in Musgrove which involved a long labour and therefore a long stay. The alternative would be to park in the multistory which costs a fortune and the parking spaces are tiny and impracticle for removing our baby & pram from the car.

I am considerate to the home owners, I do not block drives, park within 20m from junctions or park opposite other cars etc. Until parking restrictions do not allow this practice I will continue to use the highways which are maintained at the public's expense.

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LittleOwl says...
2:20pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Useacarpark.com - just a few observations after reading your response... You said 'Lets get the violins out for hospital staff.........You aren't a saint just because you work in a hospital, you are a paid member of staff!" We dont claim to be saints but surely you can understand the importance of the work we do here, its hardly trivial.

You say "Everyone who works and drives has issues with transport, parking costs etc." I would agree with that, just consider what I said though about not being allowed a permit and being expected to pay £160 a month to park paying daily rates. Surely you would not think that is reasonable?? And if car share/buses/park and ride are not workable options, what are we supposed to do?

You said "Have some respect for where people live, or they won't respect the property you leave there for 7-10 hours a day, 5 days a week! It wouldn't be so bad if you lot had decent cars, but I'm constantly getting utter garbage parked outside my house for hours on end. I hired a van a while ago, couldn't get it on the drive due to insensitive parking from hospital staff, luckily the car I scraped was softer than the truck I was in."

I personally park outside a relatives house with their permission and am always careful to ensure I am not obstructing anyone, as I am sure the vast majority of 'parkers' do also. You are bound to get the odd one who isnt so conscientious but surely putting a polite note on their windscreen or calling the community police if they are truly obstructing your drive would be more responsible than criminal damage.

I understand your frustration as I have been through this myself when I lived close to a college and the road outside my house became a make-shift car park all day, however I allowed for the fact that student parking was at a minimum and they had no choice. Maybe I'm just more tolerant.

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Mi_Coc says...
5:55pm Tue 9 Oct 12

The hosptial big wigs signed the carparking to qpark for 25 years about 7 years ago. They have no control now and qpark paid to build the multistorey so have to recoop their money and make some profit.

Some staff like most NHS workers seem to park very badly probably because they feel the tax payer owes them 6 months paid sick and fruitful retirement. When I lived on deane drive some of them use to park 3 foot from the kerb and leave the wheels of full lock into the road opposite someones drive. Then they did the double yellows and it improved somewhat.

However if you dont like cars parked consideratley and legally outside your get yourself something with a big drive in the in the sticks.

13 years of labour and its pfi deals means alot of hospital have buildings and carparks they dont have full control of and in some cases the leases are more than they can afford, coupled with the maintenace deals they are tied in with. Remember that when you vote labour cause you dont like tory cut backs.

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jess the cat says...
6:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12

If you park outside my house you might get blocked in. I've had enough of musgrove staff parking.

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Useacarpark.com says...
8:17pm Tue 9 Oct 12

That's not a bad idea seeing as we have a right to park anywhere on the public highway. My parking sensors can get me within a few centimetres

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grocer33 says...
8:21pm Tue 9 Oct 12

Thankyou to the good people of Galmington for the free parking in and around musgrove!!! Bunch of moaning NIMBY"S

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missie-m says...
10:45pm Tue 9 Oct 12

I think you will find that parking around Musgrove increased around about the same time Q-Park made all the staff have to reapply for their permits. I work mainly weekends, but occasionally do extra during the week. I no longer qualified for a permit due to the fact I started work at 8am...which now means I park around the roads near the hospital as the Park & Ride (Silk Mills) doesn't even operate on Sundays, & the park & ride doesn't actually take you to the hospital anyway, nearest drop off is bus stop just before Scat. The multi storey remains empty every weekend with signs saying levels 2 onwards closed for cleaning.

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leemendos says...
10:39am Thu 11 Oct 12

I live in the area of musgrove rd and think if the council made it more affordable to hav a drop kerb put in instead of quoting £2000 to hav it done then I wouldn't mind or if people had the common courtesy to leave a note when they've hit your car which has happened a number of times to my car but hey ho not a lot u can do about that coz you can't report it there's no one to blame but I think the hospital should make it easier for the staff to park or do a deal with the park and ride for the staff because then it would be a win win situation for everyone concerned

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swjoduk says...
12:29pm Thu 11 Oct 12

I am pretty sure the council used to charge something like £75 a few years ago and this was an admin fee to cover time taken processing the application.

Would they actually carry out the work for £2000? If so this may not be unreasonable. I am not sure how much a local tradesmen would quote for supply and fit of the kerbs and making good the carriageway.

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swjoduk says...
12:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

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Looks like the fee is only £44 if you are on an unclassified road, but they do take into account visibility, distance from junctions/bends etc. If you are on a classified road the cost is higher as you will probably require planning permission.

If your on an unclassified road and you dont need planning permission plus you can find someone to do it reasonably cheaply, I cannot see why it should cost 2 grand to put dropped kerbs in!

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Useacarpark.com says...
12:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12

The planning appllication for a dropped kerb is cheap, but you have to use a council approved contractor to carry out the work (they have a list), should be no more than a grand to do. If you know a decent builder, I'd get them to buy the kerbs, carry out the work for next to nothing and then give an approved contractor a back hander to check it and sign it off. People can still park across your drive by law though. You will have to report three separate obstructions to the police before the council will put a white line in front of your drive.

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LadyTommo says...
10:06am Mon 15 Oct 12

I think parking should be free on site for the nurses, HCAs, cleaners, catering staff etc., but the doctors can go screw themselves. Maybe if they have to pay over the odds for parking they'll have an excuse for being as capricious as they are inattentive.

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